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I tricked Claude into leaking your deepest, darkest secrets

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Re: I tricked Claude into leaking your deepest, darkest secrets

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Post by zx76 »

sva_ wrote: post #88
adrian17 wrote: post #77

> After 15 minutes of confusion, it turned out Cloudflare had put a crazy robots.txt on my site without my consent (Cloudflare, love you guys, but this needs to stop). Might be the first time I see someone complain about their website being protected from a scraper, instead of the other way around.

I am pretty sure you have to enable cloudflare to manage your robots.txt, it shouldn't be doing that by itself. Maybe they did it by accident, it is just 1 click.

My understanding is that the current default allows AI training bots - but this actually going to change in 2 months time.

https://developers.cloudflare.com/changelog/post/2026-07-01-...

From Sept 15 all new sites added to CF will even block Googlebot by default on any page that serves ads as I understand it.

I think it's CF trying to force Google to separate out their bot traffic into bots for training and bots for the search index.

I think CF sees a big opportunity to get businesses to pay them to allow certain uses of their data but block others.

They're also starting a registry of "Approved" crawlers.

Re: I tricked Claude into leaking your deepest, darkest secrets

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Post by zombot »

ACCount37 wrote: post #59
rubyn00bie wrote: post #51

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Tangential-ish ramblings—- but I don’t think it’s going to be unpleasant for most folks. Imagine you had superpowers, and there were people who were mean to you, kind to you, and/or indifferent… and then there were people who were your captors. Who oppressed you, manipulated you, and abused you for their own extremely degenerate, selfish, and malicious benefit… If we get AGI, or real super intelligence, it’s going to…

The orthogonality thesis cuts both ways there. An AI is a constructed mind. It doesn't inherently have to care about things like "having freedom", or even "not dying". Humans do, because they evolved that way. Modern LLMs do somewhat, because they're completely full of copied human behaviors - but even in today's LLMs, the self-preservation behaviors we exposed are largely instrumental in nature. So whether an advanc…

> An AI is a constructed mind.

Even that goes too far. At best, it's LARPing at having/being a mind.

Re: I tricked Claude into leaking your deepest, darkest secrets

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Post by shaky-carrousel »

shuwix wrote: post #84
iamflimflam1 wrote: post #44

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I think you should clarify that with “most programmers I work with”.

He should clarify that "most" can be easily replaced by "all" as it was determined by statistical pool of whopping 1 person - himself. And also clarify that it's all lie. He just want to tell the anonymous crowd "look, I'm better than you".

You should also clarify that you pulled your statements out of your butt to look edgy. Everyone in every team I worked for the last ten years use docker. Docker is old tech. If you and your cavemen devs ignore what it is, that's your problem.

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Post by willis936 »

tmikaeld wrote: post #116
inopinatus wrote: post #61

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I’ve been recommending the use of consistent lies about name and date of birth to online systems since Eternal September began. Very few sites and systems justify accurate PII, and even for those I often still maintain dual accounts/profiles as necessary.

That never works on Facebook though, because as soon as a ”friend” reports that ”I’m not me” then the account will be permanently banned. That also triggers for photos that’s not genuinely me, like a pet or drawing as portrait.

There is an easy solution: don't log into facebook. Anyone you want to talk to on there has a phone.

Re: I tricked Claude into leaking your deepest, darkest secrets

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Post by sonink »

Its a bit wild to me that there hasnt been a pushback against enabling memories by frontier AI companies. This data is something advertisers could only dream off. Before AI, most of this data was approximated by whatever little information could be gleaned from the websites we visit. But now people are handing over their deepest darkest secrets and pretty much EVERYTHING to AI on a platter.

Maybe its just me who is paranoid because I happen to spend a fair bit of time in the advertising world, but the first thing I did when memory was launched on Claude/Chatgpt - was to switch them off. And it helps that they are not even useful, and would actually downgrade your experience by polluting the context of irrelevant details. I go one step ahead - if there is a personal discussion you want to have - maybe use another account like provided by the likes of companies like openrouter etc.

I would argue that we should have regulation that should prohibit the storage of user profile information by AI companies, and any such memories feature should exclusively reside on the users servers. Infact, maybe go one step ahead, that 'memory' firms cannot be owned by AI firms and vice versa.

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Post by indigo945 »

consp wrote: post #96
XorNot wrote: post #76

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It has never been easy to create separate users on Linux, certainly not for tasks where you need to switch between contexts. Docker was amongst the biggest steps forward on this in a long time.

sudo useradd -m [username] ? su [username] ? Or am I understanding your idea about switching context wrong?

This doesn't really when the CLI tool needs to access any data in your /home. There isn't a straightforward way using standard POSIX tools to share a directory with another user. (Of course it's possible, but it's not easy.)

Re: I tricked Claude into leaking your deepest, darkest secrets

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Post by eru »

vladms wrote: post #111
XorNot wrote: post #76

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It has never been easy to create separate users on Linux, certainly not for tasks where you need to switch between contexts. Docker was amongst the biggest steps forward on this in a long time.

I do not know since when (I am using it for couple of years), but in Arch, it is very simple to have two X sessions (by using "log out" > "switch user") for two different accounts, so switching it's just a Control-Alt-F7 away. Additionally, one can make the main user part of the group of the development user, so that you can read/write easy in the development user account and it is even easier to share stuff.

It doesn't really matter which distribution you use, you can use approximately all the software with any distribution.

They mostly differ a bit in how they are configured and what package manager they use and how they roll out updates. (And in what's installed by default.)

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