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Re: How to stop Claude from saying load-bearing

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Post by hexasquid »

mattjoyce wrote: post #453
bensyverson wrote: post #320

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Exactly this. For whatever reason, Claude likes to talk about the "shape" of "load-bearing" "seams," but if that's the internal jargon it needs to plan and execute its work, who am I to judge? But if I'm reading what is supposed to be someone's original thoughts, it's a huge bummer to see an obvious AI tell. You might say that "it's not just disappointing—it's disrespectful."

The name for the phenomena could be Ananthropsis, noticing something is not from human

I googled that word and Anthropic.com was the first hit. Head -> desk

Re: How to stop Claude from saying load-bearing

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Post by Fabricio20 »

justusthane wrote: post #291

This is a minor nit, but why is OP's script a Python script with a .sh extension? I know the extension doesn't "matter", but if I see a .sh extension I'm expecting a Bash script.

Shebang! Notice the first line of the script: #!/usr/bin/env python3 marks the file to be executed by python. I think it's like a shell? linux? thing so that tooling can just execute the file without having to find the python interpreter (ie: _execute_ the file vs running python against the file).

Dont quote me on the specifics though, and honestly why it can't _just_ be a python file I couldn't tell you, claude code can very much run a python but maybe thats what the author tried to avoid (or the llm).

Re: How to stop Claude from saying load-bearing

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Post by tzs »

cafebeen wrote: post #359
rpdillon wrote: post #353

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I didn't use Claude for a long time, but my coworkers did, so I got infected through a side channel: I ended up reading their vibed docs, noticed "load-bearing", kind of liked it, and started using it in conversation, until I got feedback that I was "talking like Claude", so now I avoid the phrase entirely. The intersection of language and social norms is interesting.

Yes, I had a related experience of reading a book and observing what I thought were claude-isms, only to realize it was written in 2019. Some of the common tells are actually good writing practices, but I guess they are best in smaller doses.

All it takes to get accused of being AI nowadays is to remember and use (1) what you were taught about composition in your high school English class, and (2) what you learned from "The Mac is Not a Typewriter" [1].

[1] https://www.amazon.com/dp/0201782634

Re: How to stop Claude from saying load-bearing

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Post by JSR_FDED »

willmarch wrote: post #474
jghn wrote: post #373

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unfortunately load bearing is one of those things that became a claudism but has been part of my daily lexicon for decades. There are a lot of things I say regularly as part of my own vocal quirkiness that now I have to self censor.

You don’t have to self censor to appease others

Agree you don’t. But from a purely self-interested perspective, you might want to avoid phrases that to others indicate low effort.

Re: How to stop Claude from saying load-bearing

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Post by JSR_FDED »

DANmode wrote: post #514
tessierashpool wrote: post #412

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Claude's affected my language in two ways. one is that, for a long time, Claude in particular responded more to feedback if I swore at it, which caused me to swear at it more. this vicious cycle generalized to the point where I now have to consciously remind myself not to swear when doing something as simple as buying a coffee or asking somebody what time it is. it was difficult to even write that sentence without th…

> anyway, the other way is I found it's helpful when prompting LLMs to use the same "it's not delivery, it's DiGiorno's" pattern that they're all so obsessed with. especially when the thing's misapprehended some concept, so you need to clarify 1. Dying laughing at “ it's not delivery, it's DiGiorno's" 2. They do it because it’s succinct, and unambiguous.

It’s not contrived, it’s succinct.

Re: How to stop Claude from saying load-bearing

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Post by plasticchris »

doctoboggan wrote: post #309

I do not mind when I am coding with Claude and it uses all the typical claudisms. I am much more bothered when I am reading a blog post, email, or other form of prose and I see those same claudisms. I guess they are not annoying since I know I am talking to an LLM and expect the typical responses. When I am reading prose online that I previously would have expected a human to write, it can be quite jarring to realize…

Breakthrough! I’ve found it! The load bearing smoking gun is clearly how annoying this is.

Re: How to stop Claude from saying load-bearing

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Post by ALLTaken »

rpdillon wrote: post #353
doctoboggan wrote: post #309

I do not mind when I am coding with Claude and it uses all the typical claudisms. I am much more bothered when I am reading a blog post, email, or other form of prose and I see those same claudisms. I guess they are not annoying since I know I am talking to an LLM and expect the typical responses. When I am reading prose online that I previously would have expected a human to write, it can be quite jarring to realize…

I didn't use Claude for a long time, but my coworkers did, so I got infected through a side channel: I ended up reading their vibed docs, noticed "load-bearing", kind of liked it, and started using it in conversation, until I got feedback that I was "talking like Claude", so now I avoid the phrase entirely. The intersection of language and social norms is interesting.

There are actual memes about LLM-People. There are people who speak not just in terminology, but also in style of LLMs. You're so adaptive, I would've highly enjoyed and re-enforced the LLM-verbiage. I think it's entertaining! It's socially inept to talk like an LLM, but also it's not common knowledge either since LLMs are new, I believe this will become way more common.

Re: How to stop Claude from saying load-bearing

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Post by [deleted] »

redwall_hp wrote: post #502
Grimblewald wrote: post #446

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I had a similar experience, only, I was my natural way of talking. e.g. one pattern I had/have is the good news is is aviliable. The is loadbearing though, ... a near automatic script I rattle off in discussions/consults. When you solve similar problems several times, you figure out what works for communicating things you stick with it and you recycle/polish. problem is, when for whatever reason, that pattern ends up…

> Imagine an AI lab steals your voice, and uses it to scam call folks all day. One needn't imagine, because they're already stealing peoples' voices. e.g. the recent HN thread about a professional voice actor that keeps having to prove he's human. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48875153

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