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How to stop Claude from saying load-bearing

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Re: How to stop Claude from saying load-bearing

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If the next generation of AI content produced no recognizable LLM patterns, and was indistinguishable from an actual human author, would you still care and try to determine whether the content was AI produced?

Of course. The "content" is how humans communicate with each other, it doesn't just exist for its own sake (except in some degenerate cases). If you know that a human has authored it, you can infer their intent and thought-process from various choices they made across it. There's no such thing as intentional choices when the content is generated though.

I believe that the “thought process” of humans is just another automatic process albeit more sophisticated because it is running on a far more powerful processor that has evolved over millions of years and was honed by many more years of fine tuning in a complex social system. The difference is only a matter of degree.

Re: How to stop Claude from saying load-bearing

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Yes, I had a related experience of reading a book and observing what I thought were claude-isms, only to realize it was written in 2019. Some of the common tells are actually good writing practices, but I guess they are best in smaller doses.

Even em dashes have been discouraged by some writers [0] before LLMs because they're easy to overuse. [0]: https://slate.com/human-interest/2011/05/em-dashes-why-write...

God help me if Claude starts using inline parentheticals, I might just have to take a vow of (online) silence.

Re: How to stop Claude from saying load-bearing

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unfortunately load bearing is one of those things that became a claudism but has been part of my daily lexicon for decades. There are a lot of things I say regularly as part of my own vocal quirkiness that now I have to self censor.

I've used it since that simpsons episode "it's a load bearing poster..."

And any petrolhead will be familiar with the phrase "it's structural rust".

Re: How to stop Claude from saying load-bearing

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I didn't use Claude for a long time, but my coworkers did, so I got infected through a side channel: I ended up reading their vibed docs, noticed "load-bearing", kind of liked it, and started using it in conversation, until I got feedback that I was "talking like Claude", so now I avoid the phrase entirely. The intersection of language and social norms is interesting.

Claude's affected my language in two ways. one is that, for a long time, Claude in particular responded more to feedback if I swore at it, which caused me to swear at it more. this vicious cycle generalized to the point where I now have to consciously remind myself not to swear when doing something as simple as buying a coffee or asking somebody what time it is. it was difficult to even write that sentence without th…

> anyway, the other way is I found it's helpful when prompting LLMs to use the same "it's not delivery, it's DiGiorno's" pattern that they're all so obsessed with. especially when the thing's misapprehended some concept, so you need to clarify

1. Dying laughing at “ it's not delivery, it's DiGiorno's"

2. They do it because it’s succinct, and unambiguous.

Re: How to stop Claude from saying load-bearing

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I didn't use Claude for a long time, but my coworkers did, so I got infected through a side channel: I ended up reading their vibed docs, noticed "load-bearing", kind of liked it, and started using it in conversation, until I got feedback that I was "talking like Claude", so now I avoid the phrase entirely. The intersection of language and social norms is interesting.

The one Claudism I will never ever use is "synthesize". I don't even know where that came from - no one talks or writes like that - "I can synthesize that for you".

Exactly. Bots extrude text, they don't synthesize it for you.

Re: How to stop Claude from saying load-bearing

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I've been keeping a record of the increasingly opinionated vocab it fixates on: * Projection (it seems to love to describe one data structure as a projection of another) * Strand (if some data gets isolated/stuck, it's "on a strand" or simply "a strand") * Load-bearing (obviously) * Frontier (the leaf on a tree) * Quiescence (waiting for an algorithm to settle - I guess this one is legit) * Honest (obviously) * Resid…

I notice there's a whole tech bro speak it gets into anytime it approaches web related tasks around auth, to the point where it stops using complete sentences, making them ambiguous and borderline nonsense. I have to periodically tell it "Speak professionally and use complete sentences." so I can understand what it's even saying. I've even pasted the output to another session to see if it was me, but Claude can't eve…

I have added a skill to make Opus 4.8 use Opus 4 6 to translate its answers into teadable English, sine it had much higher quality prose. Im seriously considering switching from Claude 20x to Codex because I just cant read more of of Opus or Fable's walls of text

Re: How to stop Claude from saying load-bearing

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I do not mind when I am coding with Claude and it uses all the typical claudisms. I am much more bothered when I am reading a blog post, email, or other form of prose and I see those same claudisms. I guess they are not annoying since I know I am talking to an LLM and expect the typical responses. When I am reading prose online that I previously would have expected a human to write, it can be quite jarring to realize…

I didn't use Claude for a long time, but my coworkers did, so I got infected through a side channel: I ended up reading their vibed docs, noticed "load-bearing", kind of liked it, and started using it in conversation, until I got feedback that I was "talking like Claude", so now I avoid the phrase entirely. The intersection of language and social norms is interesting.

I love "vibes in a trenchcoat" and I don't care if it makes me sound like an LLM.

Re: How to stop Claude from saying load-bearing

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I do not mind when I am coding with Claude and it uses all the typical claudisms. I am much more bothered when I am reading a blog post, email, or other form of prose and I see those same claudisms. I guess they are not annoying since I know I am talking to an LLM and expect the typical responses. When I am reading prose online that I previously would have expected a human to write, it can be quite jarring to realize…

Something that's coming up repeatedly for me is that there seems to be 2 distinct AI cultures forming.

AI as Personal

AI as Public.

Personal AI users adapt to the tool, but they keep the "sausage" bits private. And often recoil at seeing them in public.

Public AI users want to show everyone everything about how they use the tool, and dont care if their content is obviously generated.

I definitely fall in the private camp myself, very rarely sharing anything generated even with close friends.

Re: How to stop Claude from saying load-bearing

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Actually, AI was learning these 'AI-isms' even back in 2017/2018 (probably even earlier). I think a lot of people who just jumped on the imaginary AI bandwagon more recently don't realise the mannerisms AIs are adopting are not really new. At some point the bleed between 'you' or 'you' and AI will just become so transparent it will be obliterated, more likely than not.

What do you mean? AI is being trained on all data available, so obviously it’s being trained on data from 2017/2018 as well. Or do you mean that the patterns that AI is showing today were already present in communication around that time? That seems obvious as well, as AI has a lot of repetitive patterns that come from all kinds of periods, of which “load-bearing” is just one.

Yes, I am saying the patterns were emergent already in 2017/2018.

Re: How to stop Claude from saying load-bearing

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While I, too, find myself recoiling at many of Claude's word and phrase choices, I've chosen to grit my teeth and have just tried adapting to it. I want Claude to remain focused on the work I give it; I fear that influencing its communication with me would consume valuable context and give me lower quality results. [Edit: Part of what led me to this conclusion: I do prohibit Claude from using em-dashes in any player-…

I also have a local rule for no em-dashes since it got way too annoying and i have the same concern that it dilutes the attention so it's the only rule i've kept in addition to "be concise".
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