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The largest available Minecraft world, totalling 15 TB

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Re: The largest available Minecraft world, totalling 15 TB

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> Complete freedom > hateful symbols, hate speech What a despicable freedom...

Also not those things, much like real life. Renounce what is said in freedom (with good reasons) when you see it. Don't shove it under the rug and regret it grows around you when you close your ears. That is what makes freedom beautiful, not the enlightened few saying what's good to talk about and what's not.

Re: The largest available Minecraft world, totalling 15 TB

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what? how does censoring "fuck" not make it anarchy?

That’s wild if true. The slippery slope starts somewhere, but I too am not convinced it starts there.

Where else would it start if not "you're not allowed to say this word because I don't like it"? Personally, I don't see why that word being banned gets a free pass. Would this proverbial slope start with speech at all? I can't imagine why one would accept one word being banned, then stand up to decry another being banned. What word would that be? Why is it more worthy than any other word?

Historically, it doesn't seem like much of a fallacy to say speech controls become more stringent after being introduced. Indeed, historically, one could remove the word "speech" and still be correct. The control doesn't go away in most cases until power changes hands, and even then it's often meeting the new boss, same as the old boss.

Re: The largest available Minecraft world, totalling 15 TB

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> I think "storing deltas" based on seed is largely how Minecraft saves the level already This is not the case, level data is stored in full. One reason for this is that level generation is pretty slow (compare the time it takes to create a new world vs. load an existing one); another reason is that it changes between versions.

Fun fact - bedrock only saves chunks modified by the player because consoles are much more restrictive with save file size than PC. If the world gets too big, your save is effectively lost. Java does save chunks after generation, likely due to world gen updates not seamlessly transitioning with older versions of the game and PCs not caring about save size.

What does bedrock consider 'modification'? E.G. cutting trees / plants? How about mining?

I imagine 'forgetting' softly touched chunks could be a notable benefit.

Re: The largest available Minecraft world, totalling 15 TB

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It's still online, but it's not anarchy anymore [0]. [0]: https://www.2b2t.org/terms/

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I think broadly I'm in agreement that the censorship via blacklisting threats was unwarranted. That said, I also think we should keep in mind that this isn't some public forum made for adults to have discussions, it's a public block game server. I think it's more than reasonable to say that the average minecraft player is probably a child and one of the most popular servers being full of swastikas and racial slurs probably isn't good for children. Personally I think there was potential for some kind of middle ground, but I'm also not mourning the loss of the obsidian nazi builds too hard. The paradox of tolerance and all that. The vast majority of the anarchy spirit is still there, it's just slightly less edgy. It's hard to discuss in good faith because the advocates for lack of censorship here are largely people who want to spam the N word in chat all day or their unwitting allies. Ultimately, whatever the outcome (and I think the current outcome is at least /ok/), I've made peace with the possibility of losing minecraft as a medium for totally free speech. It's just a block game.

Re: The largest available Minecraft world, totalling 15 TB

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I have such fond memories of venturing into 2b2t in 2016! I think it was one of the last times I truly felt like a kid in my life. As if I was a part of something larger than me. Multiple factions, and people betraying each other. Secrecy abound. The scarcity of resources leading to small groups forming joining for survival. Item duplication bugs being exploited all the time! Oh, and of course, the wonderful world of…

On the flip side does this stuff add up to a greater cultural impact than playground drama nostalgia? Can I write this without being downvoted?

I think it's either the same impact or better.

Although, to loosely quote a friend of mine: "I care about my memories, and those of my close ones".

Naaah, that's not really true. I care about culture and about the progress of society as a whole, but I see nothing wrong with memories built within Minecraft. I think they're as good as any.

Re: The largest available Minecraft world, totalling 15 TB

#58

Oh wow, they actually provided the full torrent. I was always hoping they would so it could be studied. For those unfamiliar, 2B2T was a Minecraft anarchy server that had almost no restrictions. It devolved into roving gangs of people trying to kill each other, use cheats to find secret bases, etc. The trick to hiding on this server was to go as far away as possible from the center, which led to an enormous map size.…

Wow, how did you do the screenshot?

Also, this is minecraft ? Holy shit

Re: The largest available Minecraft world, totalling 15 TB

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I am a greybeard and I always find this stuff to be fascinating. Should I invest time in it for relaxation? I think I have the diablo-ish Minecraft thing on my Xbox series X. Is it worth the time?

Minecraft is fun. 2b2t is not.

Re: The largest available Minecraft world, totalling 15 TB

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I think broadly I'm in agreement that the censorship via blacklisting threats was unwarranted. That said, I also think we should keep in mind that this isn't some public forum made for adults to have discussions, it's a public block game server. I think it's more than reasonable to say that the average minecraft player is probably a child and one of the most popular servers being full of swastikas and racial slurs pr…

It's a case of some people making it worse for everyone. If people behaved on the server, MS wouldn't have intervened, which then wouldn't have made 2b2t cave on a what feels like a core ideal. It may only have chipped a corner of that ideal, but it still stings.

That said, I think it is inevitable for any anarchist server that gets large enough to end up in this exact situation. MS wasn't going to let one of the biggest and most famous servers of its most popular game be filled with swastikas. Even less so when it's so popular with kids.

In a funnier world, 2b2t would have said 'no', but I have a feeling MS would escalate, and that whatever email or whatever the admins got probably implied as much, so maybe that world wouldn't be funnier after all.

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