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Re: How to stop Claude from saying load-bearing

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Post by Waterluvian »

rpdillon wrote: post #353
doctoboggan wrote: post #309

I do not mind when I am coding with Claude and it uses all the typical claudisms. I am much more bothered when I am reading a blog post, email, or other form of prose and I see those same claudisms. I guess they are not annoying since I know I am talking to an LLM and expect the typical responses. When I am reading prose online that I previously would have expected a human to write, it can be quite jarring to realize…

I didn't use Claude for a long time, but my coworkers did, so I got infected through a side channel: I ended up reading their vibed docs, noticed "load-bearing", kind of liked it, and started using it in conversation, until I got feedback that I was "talking like Claude", so now I avoid the phrase entirely. The intersection of language and social norms is interesting.

Honest take: Claudisms have become a load-bearing part of my vocabulary.

Re: How to stop Claude from saying load-bearing

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Post by redwall_hp »

Grimblewald wrote: post #446
rpdillon wrote: post #353

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I didn't use Claude for a long time, but my coworkers did, so I got infected through a side channel: I ended up reading their vibed docs, noticed "load-bearing", kind of liked it, and started using it in conversation, until I got feedback that I was "talking like Claude", so now I avoid the phrase entirely. The intersection of language and social norms is interesting.

I had a similar experience, only, I was my natural way of talking. e.g. one pattern I had/have is the good news is is aviliable. The is loadbearing though, ... a near automatic script I rattle off in discussions/consults. When you solve similar problems several times, you figure out what works for communicating things you stick with it and you recycle/polish. problem is, when for whatever reason, that pattern ends up…

> Imagine an AI lab steals your voice, and uses it to scam call folks all day.

One needn't imagine, because they're already stealing peoples' voices. e.g. the recent HN thread about a professional voice actor that keeps having to prove he's human.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48875153

Re: How to stop Claude from saying load-bearing

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Post by [deleted] »

Waterluvian wrote: post #501
rpdillon wrote: post #353

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I didn't use Claude for a long time, but my coworkers did, so I got infected through a side channel: I ended up reading their vibed docs, noticed "load-bearing", kind of liked it, and started using it in conversation, until I got feedback that I was "talking like Claude", so now I avoid the phrase entirely. The intersection of language and social norms is interesting.

Honest take: Claudisms have become a load-bearing part of my vocabulary.

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Re: How to stop Claude from saying load-bearing

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Post by kevincox »

demosthanos wrote: post #334

The biggest consistent tell for LLM writing is when the conversation leaks through into the final prose. You read along with the text and things seem to be going fine until all of the sudden it starts arguing against a position that no one has actually taken and which doesn't feature elsewhere in the text at all. Then it drops that and goes on for a while before doing the whole thing again about a totally different t…

Yes, I especially see this in code comments. You will get a PR where the comments reference an approach that wasn't the previous state and isn't the state of the PR. You can basically hear the dev telling Claude to take a new approach and now it is so fixated on the old approach being wrong that it litters the whole patch with traces of it despite now being irrelevant.

Re: How to stop Claude from saying load-bearing

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Post by alxndr »

1attice wrote: post #403

As someone who has been describing things as 'load-bearing' as something like a signature phrase for about twenty years, I'm beyond miffed that Claude has ruined my whole gimmick. A new catchphrase every twenty years is hardly sustainable at my age :)

Punctuation lover here, and it's really disappointing that my use of em-dashes is now considered an AI tell... Even though I use them differently from how LLMs do, the distinction is subtle unless you're a grammar nerd.

Re: How to stop Claude from saying load-bearing

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Post by zamadatix »

1899-12-30 wrote: post #240
jihadjihad wrote: post #144

What is arguably worse is hearing these phrases from humans who have been inculcated with the notion that their usage is idiomatic and appropriate. And we thought "robust", "circle back", and "to leverage" were grating...

makes it easy to discard someones opinion when they hit you with 'geniunely'[0] [0]: https://trends.google.com/explore?q=genuinely&date=all&geo=U...

What a rip, I was lured by the quoted misspelling into an ordinary spelling :p

Interestingly, we seem to have our own version if this trend https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=genuinely&year...

Re: How to stop Claude from saying load-bearing

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Post by ashdksnndck »

noduerme wrote: post #277
synalx wrote: post #158

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Mine is obsessed with "planes". Data plane, control plane, management plane. Everything is a plane :)

I hate when it starts talking about code in terms of planes. I have no idea what it means. I guess it's better than talking about heaps of spaghetti with noodles connecting to each other, but that would be much closer to what it actually writes.

Think of the planes as plates of spaghetti.

Re: How to stop Claude from saying load-bearing

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Post by keithnz »

doctoboggan wrote: post #309

I do not mind when I am coding with Claude and it uses all the typical claudisms. I am much more bothered when I am reading a blog post, email, or other form of prose and I see those same claudisms. I guess they are not annoying since I know I am talking to an LLM and expect the typical responses. When I am reading prose online that I previously would have expected a human to write, it can be quite jarring to realize…

I get claude to use my voice when making emails, works out pretty well.

Re: How to stop Claude from saying load-bearing

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Post by alxndr »

Arathorn wrote: post #485

I've been keeping a record of the increasingly opinionated vocab it fixates on: * Projection (it seems to love to describe one data structure as a projection of another) * Strand (if some data gets isolated/stuck, it's "on a strand" or simply "a strand") * Load-bearing (obviously) * Frontier (the leaf on a tree) * Quiescence (waiting for an algorithm to settle - I guess this one is legit) * Honest (obviously) * Resid…

I'm more irked by the sentence-structure patterns it continually uses... here's my list:

https://github.com/alxndr/dotfiles/blob/3d099dbf86da9/claude...

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