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Re: Microsoft deleted my account and OneDrive

#41

Who the fuck designs these flows...

Someone who knows that there's absolutely nothing this guy can do about it. Maybe he could sue, but really if a major company like Microsoft, or Google, decides to delete all of your data, and doesn't want to give it back, there's really nothing you can do about it. We really do need a law protecting consumer's data from arbitrary deletion.

Some random Brazilian disagrees.

Re: Microsoft deleted my account and OneDrive

#42
Back in college, I did a hackathon where I striped data across different clouds like OneDrive and Dropbox so that even if one of the providers went down you would still be able to recover your data. Had the additional benefit of no single provider being able to read your files because none of them had the full data set.

Ended up not pursuing it but every time I see a story like this I think I should have.

Re: Microsoft deleted my account and OneDrive

#43

Baby pictures.. That's really sad… Reminds me of when the executive editor of wired magazine, Matt Honan, trusted all of his baby pictures and movies to iCloud only for it to get hacked and have it all deleted. Always have that off-line back up.

I bought a Synology Beestation just for this purpose. I don't need it to do anything else, just keep my pictures backed up.

Re: Microsoft deleted my account and OneDrive

#44
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This is why I always ensure I have a big enough HD. I've used my current cloud backup for almost 15 years, and am really happy with it. But I never rely on them exclusively. If they go out of business tomorrow, I still have all the data locally! And of course, if my HD crashes, I sync back all the really important stuff. (OK, I would lose prior revisions of a file - I can live with that).

I don't know about in this case, but I've heard of both Apple and Microsoft "cloudifying" then deleting local files just found on your drive. I think with Apple, it was music. The lack of control with closed platforms is staggering. Best make those offline bsckups.

It is probably not what you are taking about, but apple itunes deleted my entire music collection, first on my iPod, then on my hard drive, as I tried to sync one to the other. That was around 20 years ago.. when I stopped trusting tech.

So when Microsoft force updated my entire office to windows 11 and force uploaded their desktops to onedrive and locked them out because the cloud drive was now full.. I was uneffected (apart from having to fix the mess).

Re: Microsoft deleted my account and OneDrive

#45

Back in college, I did a hackathon where I striped data across different clouds like OneDrive and Dropbox so that even if one of the providers went down you would still be able to recover your data. Had the additional benefit of no single provider being able to read your files because none of them had the full data set. Ended up not pursuing it but every time I see a story like this I think I should have.

If you're talking consumer, there are a plethora of solutions already that are much simpler. If you're talking enterprise, there's no way the cost will make sense for TBs of data as enterprise backup solutions have existed since forever.

Re: Microsoft deleted my account and OneDrive

#46

> "This action is irreversible and ensures that your data remains protected." This amounts to "We deleted all your data in order to keep it safe." WTF.

Personally I would much rather Google delete my files than hand them to an attacker. I can restore them from a backup. Tech companies need to do better at encouraging users to keep their own local backup alongside the cloud one.

Re: Microsoft deleted my account and OneDrive

#47
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Even enterprise M365 solutions dont have backups unless you pay extra. Always have your own separate backup, ideally offline.

This is one of those things a shockingly large number of businesses do not understand. The cloud has been sold as magic, people don't realize you have all of the same needs as you do on-premise, you're just also paying rent.

Re: Microsoft deleted my account and OneDrive

#48

Man, I love the PlayStation is going purely digital, who needs physical media for the games or movies you buy, nothing like this ever happens

This has nothing to do with physical vs "digital" (CDs are digital anyway), but with owning. CDs can have DRM and only work with keys from whitelisted systems that might even have to authenticate online or trigger a time bomb and wipe their keys and downloads can be in a DRM free format that can be copied, archived and played on any capable device forever.

How're they gonna do that to an offline system like the PS2 or NES? Why should I simply just give up the rights I had on those systems because Sony and Microsoft want more money?

Re: Microsoft deleted my account and OneDrive

#50
Have a TrueNAS server at home with a bunch of drives in a RAID-Z array. Backups go there. My pictures, which are probably my single most important item, are also there but get cross-backed up to a very good friend’s NAS in a different city. And his to mine.

My wife’s backups also go on BackBlaze because she would be much, much, much less tolerant of a local glitch than I would.

TL;DR local-first backups here. Time Machine makes it trivial except when it falls on it face and has to start over. Highly recommended if you can put up with replacing a hard drive every few years.

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