Show HN: Tilion – Stealth Browser Infrastructure for Agents
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#2You just submitted a Show (4 times.. but the successful one:) (43 points, 6 days ago, 63 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48825745
Please don't use HN primarily for promotion. It's ok to post your own stuff part of the time, but the primary use of the site should be for curiosity.
Re: Show HN: Tilion – Stealth Browser Infrastructure for Agents
#3You just submitted a Show (4 times.. but the successful one:) (43 points, 6 days ago, 63 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48825745 Please don't use HN primarily for promotion. It's ok to post your own stuff part of the time, but the primary use of the site should be for curiosity. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
pinky promise this is my last time, trying to get a cursor moment
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Re: Show HN: Tilion – Stealth Browser Infrastructure for Agents
#5You just submitted a Show (4 times.. but the successful one:) (43 points, 6 days ago, 63 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48825745 Please don't use HN primarily for promotion. It's ok to post your own stuff part of the time, but the primary use of the site should be for curiosity. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
pinky promise this is my last time, trying to get a cursor moment
I think HN may be less useful these days. I noticed many posts got a great initial vote profile in a few minutes but then were prevented from any front page or or any good show page slots. Is either moderation downweighting, or some abusing the flag system. It’s not good to suppress good work.
I’m having success right now with Reddit and YouTube. I think HN may be over for good work unless you are protected/blessed/not downweighted by mods.
I love your promos video - how did you put that together? Vibing with the retro internet story.
Also i am building something with similar goals: https://duetbrowser.com/dub-cli
I’m very glad you got on the show page. Many of my recent posts that got the same vote/time rate with similar min stories on show never escaped new - indicating flag or mod suppression - even tho there’s zero rational reason and no good reason for anyone to do that. Good work should be shown not hidden by personal bias of a few
I’m not a noob - i got the biggest show HN of last year, but the system, or the experience of some accounts including mine has radically changed in the last few months. So far the mods are saying they don’t know anything about outright downweighting, but have not shown data that supports that. What I’ve seen very much supports that
Good luck with your post!
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Re: Show HN: Tilion – Stealth Browser Infrastructure for Agents
#7You just submitted a Show (4 times.. but the successful one:) (43 points, 6 days ago, 63 comments) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48825745 Please don't use HN primarily for promotion. It's ok to post your own stuff part of the time, but the primary use of the site should be for curiosity. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
pinky promise this is my last time, trying to get a cursor moment
This is not how Cursor got their moment. They built credibility gradually by continuing to develop the product and regularly sharing it in different spaces (Twitter, GitHub, probably elsewhere).
If a project has already been on HN and has set off a flamewar, you don't get a better outcome by submitting the same project under a different URL the following week.
You take the feedback and think about how to improve the product or the messaging, then try again when it's changed enough to be worthy of another shot at the front page.
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#8Earlier quoted context omitted.
pinky promise this is my last time, trying to get a cursor moment
I think HN may be less useful these days. I noticed many posts got a great initial vote profile in a few minutes but then were prevented from any front page or or any good show page slots. Is either moderation downweighting, or some abusing the flag system. It’s not good to suppress good work. I’m having success right now with Reddit and YouTube. I think HN may be over for good work unless you are protected/blessed/n…
HN has changed because the whole technology world has changed. The number of Show HNs submitted has spiked dramatically, and the average level of interestingness/impressiveness/technical depth has changed inversely.
Of course we want to see “good work”; we're working constantly to develop new ways of identifying it. And the moderators are not going to down-weight work that is “good”; if we did that we'd be hurting HN and YC. Most of what it submitted to Show HN, we don't see, because so much is submitted that it's impossible to review it all.
What we are looking for is evidence of credibility, substance, depth and novelty, and it's actually not very hard to convey that if it exists; you just need to make make the effort to write a good post that tells the story of why and how you built the project and what you overcame and learned along the way.
Re: Show HN: Tilion – Stealth Browser Infrastructure for Agents
#9Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think HN may be less useful these days. I noticed many posts got a great initial vote profile in a few minutes but then were prevented from any front page or or any good show page slots. Is either moderation downweighting, or some abusing the flag system. It’s not good to suppress good work. I’m having success right now with Reddit and YouTube. I think HN may be over for good work unless you are protected/blessed/n…
HN has changed because the whole technology world has changed. The number of Show HNs submitted has spiked dramatically, and the average level of interestingness/impressiveness/technical depth has changed inversely. Of course we want to see “good work”; we're working constantly to develop new ways of identifying it. And the moderators are not going to down-weight work that is “good”; if we did that we'd be hurting HN…
This sounds like it puts the issue back on creators. A real tension. Is that how you see it? “System is already perfect, if your work is not getting up it must be shit”?
What doesn’t scan is i don’t make shit. I regularly hit front over the last ten years. Now the posts that get community signal are held back, and not a single one of my high-quality works has hit HN front page in six months. Why are you doing this?
Also i suggest for posterity you prevent the comments in our thread here from being flagged invisible. Let’s keep it open and fair. The sole exception to the above ‘ban’ was so egregiously flagged and misrepresented in comments it led to GitHub disabling the projects’ repo. Mods did not step in to protect or police the bad comments. Night and day with before.
Edit: edit fair enough on looking for a new ways to identify signal, but to be honest it seems like you guys already have a good signal of interestingness. I mean it worked before this year, and it also seems the ability to consistently hit the front page should be a good signal of ability to generate interesting content, but you seem to be penalizing that in my case?
Thanks for the back and forth
Re: Show HN: Tilion – Stealth Browser Infrastructure for Agents
#10Earlier quoted context omitted.
pinky promise this is my last time, trying to get a cursor moment
This is not how Cursor got their moment. They built credibility gradually by continuing to develop the product and regularly sharing it in different spaces (Twitter, GitHub, probably elsewhere). If a project has already been on HN and has set off a flamewar, you don't get a better outcome by submitting the same project under a different URL the following week. You take the feedback and think about how to improve the…
i do agree with you, however, i would say thats the path that we are trying to take as well. we took the flamewars' feedback very seriously. since then, the system has had major work, we crossed 20k+ installs, and we reframed what the project is actually for. i am sure you also saw how the old framing leaned on getting past bot detection, which reads as enabling abuse. we have tried really hard to move past that, and making it so that it turns into a product thats enabling growth of the web.
also, the post last wekk was about an open soruce engine, this is the infra layer that enables 1000x of what that did. on benchmarks regarding stealth, speed and usability, we now beat all major providers. what
hn is goated precisely because ppl here are real, and the last weeks feedback helped us grow a lot. we are hoping that exponentiation keeps happening.