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No Spanish reading crisis?

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Re: No Spanish reading crisis?

#111

The reading crisis is overblown, women dominate publishing and much of the output is geared toward female readers. Smut and photo-filled recipe books, Wiccan tween fiction. Men are happy reading classics and technical books.

Take this incel garbage back to 4chan.

Ruin 4chan and the whole internet becomes 4chan, you know this to be true.

Re: No Spanish reading crisis?

#112

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I have some Spanish ex-co-workers. I just verified it. They both had it on their required reading list in high-school. (one of them is in his 30s, the other in his 40s)

As a born, raised and currently living in Spain, I had never heard that. We have plenty of classical author required in high school: Cervantes, Quevedo, Benavente, Bécquer, Machado, Lorca, Pérez Galdós... Most modern and cool teachers also recommend contemporary authors like Ana María Matute, García Marquez or Jordi Sierra i Fabra. The foreign author most recommended has to be Roah Dahl, Michael Ende, Jules Verne or…

These guys are from Galicia. Maybe that makes a difference.

Re: No Spanish reading crisis?

#113
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Spain is as rich as Japan on GDP PPP, richer than Israel and New Zealand. Readership issues in countries like the USA started way before mass adoption of AI, so also it's not related to AI effects.

Saying Spain is rich while half the population lives on 1,000 euros per month (mil euristas) is crazy or just very "technically accurate".

boy howdy let me tell you about how little the USA-ians often live on, or how low the pay is in Japan

Re: No Spanish reading crisis?

#114
Anglophone countries suffers from social media - with the whole monetization thing driven towards making fake content, rage baiting content that can be consumed in the west & divisive to put people into buckets.

Re: No Spanish reading crisis?

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The Spanish Civil War would like to have a word with you, but maybe Franco is part of "the resistance" now.

What an odd comment. I'd think it's obvious I referred to the current wave that started 15* years ago. * give or take some years

Isn't it obvious that nothing is obvious?

Re: No Spanish reading crisis?

#116

It's not uncommon to see people (and young people) reading on public transport here in Spain. The odd thing is how popular actual paper books are vs. e-readers. Since I got my Kindle in 2015 I haven't read a paper book since. That said, I find it odd that people assume that reading a book is always higher quality than reading the internet etc. - many books are pretty low quality. And if we look at stuff like the PISA…

> That said, I find it odd that people assume that reading a book is always higher quality than reading the internet etc. - many books are pretty low quality. You've received several answers on the "quality" side due to books being harder to create, but I'll cover two more arguments: 1. Nobody's "reading the internet" anymore, especially not on their phones. They're mindlessly scrolling short-form video, either muted…

I guess I'm nobody then. I almost only read the internet.

Re: No Spanish reading crisis?

#117

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What's a book, though? I suppose people would at least count a traditional e-book. Does long-form fanfic count? How about a book-length website? What about one that was originally published as a book and then republished online?

All your examples could be printed and read as books - whatever form they are consumed in. What differences are you seeking to highlight with these examples?

People don't usually count reading an online piece of writing as equivalent to reading a book, even if the exact same content could also be in book form. Hence if you ask speakers of a language with a lot of available online reading material (English), you may systematically underestimate how much they read long-form content.

Re: No Spanish reading crisis?

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As a born, raised and currently living in Spain, I had never heard that. We have plenty of classical author required in high school: Cervantes, Quevedo, Benavente, Bécquer, Machado, Lorca, Pérez Galdós... Most modern and cool teachers also recommend contemporary authors like Ana María Matute, García Marquez or Jordi Sierra i Fabra. The foreign author most recommended has to be Roah Dahl, Michael Ende, Jules Verne or…

These guys are from Galicia. Maybe that makes a difference.

One of those links, the first, is from a Galicia school. Incidentaly, I am Galician, and I read "O príncipe, de Maquiavelo" when I was around 40.

The difference in Galicia is that we also have "Literatura Galega", that requires us to read Castelao, Neira Vilas, Rosalía, Murguía, Otero Pedraio... I bet other Comunidades with their own language also recommend local writters.

Unless they went to some kind of private school, where they found a weird literature proffesor with political inclinations (the kind that also recommend Gramsci or Rothbard like it is "literature"), or maybe the requirement was from a philosophy or a history class, I never heard such a thing. Not saying that they are lying, but it is not a common recommendation, even less a requirement.

Re: No Spanish reading crisis?

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Because we have a lot of authors from what we call "golden years", and "Spanish Literature" teachers tend to be extra proud of them. Why would they recommend Dante, when they have "Cantar del Mío Cid"? A Shakespeare translation or original Cervantes? Mark Twain or Benito Pérez Galdós? I don't mean that non spanish authors are worse (I dislike many of them because they were forced to me too early, when I preferred Dah…

As a Spaniard I wish we had Mark Twain instead of the drowsy village dramas from the so-called Golden Age.

Yean, sure, sometimes it is like they train us to dislike those authors. But as a spaniard, had you ever heard of someone who was recommended/required to read Maquiavelo? Maybe some weird philosophy teacher? Even more, do you know a lot of people that knows even the name of the book "El Príncipe", and not just "Maquiavelo: el fin justifica los medios", and that's it?
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