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European "age verification" "app" forcing everyone to use Android or iOS

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Re: European "age verification" "app" forcing everyone to use Android or iOS

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Post by microtonal »

chopin wrote: post #241
tikkabhuna wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would an age verification app need to know your ethnicity/religion? Governments likely already know your name, age, place of birth, so having an app with a standard API for verifying users isn't giving the government additional data.

Governments will track with whom you verify. Much worse.

Can we not spread nonsense narratives? One of the explicit requirements of the EU age verification system is that they cannot:

https://digital-strategy.ec.europa.eu/en/factpages/blueprint...

First, the user downloads the app onto their phone and sets it up by certifying their age. This can be done with a biometric passport/ID card, a national eID (e.g. national ID Card or other electronic identification mean), a pre-installed third-party app (e.g. a banking app), or in person (e.g. at the post office). Only the information confirming that the user is over the age will be saved in the app. No name, no birthday, or any other data is saved.

After completing this step, the communication between the app and the provider certifying the user’s age (e.g. eID, third-party app) ends. No further data is exchanged.

https://digital-strategy.ec.europa.eu/en/faqs/eu-age-verific...

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Post by __MatrixMan__ »

gobip wrote: post #13

Don't fall for the trap. The question isn't how we should technically force age verification on anybody. The question is why they're pushing it onto everyone. I did not consent to this, neither did you.

The halls of power are full of pedophiles. Why do you think they want to gather data on children?

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Post by duxup »

The unintended consequence of poorly thought out regulations (good or bad) can be wild.

I’m still having to deal with making some sort of legal agreement with EVERY website I visit over cookies constantly… I just don’t care anymore / click whatever.

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Post by mrec »

leonvoss wrote: post #195
roundabout-host wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Children die from wrongly-prepared food, thus we should only allow people to eat at McDonald's from now on! /s

When they run out of other rights to destroy, they will pipe videos of little girls crying from food poisoning into your e-verified telescreen during ChildSafe^TM viewing hours, and the result will be that you will get to choose between two state approved restaurants thereafter.

Two? Since the Franchise Wars, all restaurants are Taco Bell.

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Post by SoftTalker »

microtonal wrote: post #257
elevation wrote: post #172

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This year, an octogenarian friend got locked out of his android phone permanently. He had never had a PIN on his Samsung phone. It started when he signed up at a new bank, giving them his phone number. Somehow the bank enrolled his in their online banking system, which notified Samsung, who remotely initiated the "let's give your phone a pin" flow, presumably to protect him during online banking. (This happened witho…

It started when he signed up at a new bank, giving them his phone number. Somehow the bank enrolled his in their online banking system, which notified Samsung, who remotely initiated the "let's give your phone a pin" flow, presumably to protect him during online banking. Do you have a proof that this actually a thing? I don't see what mechanism exists to do this and I don't see why Samsung would even bother to do thi…

Perhaps cooincidence and Samsung pushed an update that now required a PIN, but there was an untested failure mode (rebooting the device after the PIN setting process had been initiated but not completed).

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Post by Nicholas_C »

duxup wrote: post #263

The unintended consequence of poorly thought out regulations (good or bad) can be wild. I’m still having to deal with making some sort of legal agreement with EVERY website I visit over cookies constantly… I just don’t care anymore / click whatever.

I'm confused on why browsers can't automatically handle the cookies pop ups. It's beyond annoying and something that should just be automated since my preferences don't change.

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Post by duxup »

Nicholas_C wrote: post #266
duxup wrote: post #263

The unintended consequence of poorly thought out regulations (good or bad) can be wild. I’m still having to deal with making some sort of legal agreement with EVERY website I visit over cookies constantly… I just don’t care anymore / click whatever.

I'm confused on why browsers can't automatically handle the cookies pop ups. It's beyond annoying and something that should just be automated since my preferences don't change.

It should be very easy. But for whatever reasons they chose to make this the people’s problem… constantly.

Same goes for age ID things too.

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Post by consp »

I'm still wondering how this is compatible with laws concerning disabilities, the elderly and those with certain religious believes. They already keep everything governmental related multi modal (you must be able to do it some other way, and almost always this include by proxy and on paper). This is some Draconian way of doing it.

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Post by lionkor »

duxup wrote: post #263

The unintended consequence of poorly thought out regulations (good or bad) can be wild. I’m still having to deal with making some sort of legal agreement with EVERY website I visit over cookies constantly… I just don’t care anymore / click whatever.

Consentomatic does most common cookie dialogs, according to your settings.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/consent-o-mat...

It also exists for other browsers.

I am not affiliated,but I have it on my devices and even on my phone, it's quite good and I very rarely get cookie popups now.

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