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How to stop Claude from saying load-bearing

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Re: How to stop Claude from saying load-bearing

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> "Why say honest? We're talking to our coworkers. We would always be honest." I grew up in the US South where starting or ending a sentence with "honest/honestly" was very common. Because of behavioral / cultural norms, you might be very openly friendly with big smiles around a business customer that really grates on your nerves, or very openly nice to a neighbor that you really wish would move away and take their 3…

If I’m having a convo with someone and they drop in “honestly” I immediately discount everything else they’ve said, and what follows. Sometimes people use it reflexively and doesn’t carry the same meaning (for me).

Yes. Its a red flag that indicates everything else you’ve said is not honest by implication.

Re: How to stop Claude from saying load-bearing

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I do not mind when I am coding with Claude and it uses all the typical claudisms. I am much more bothered when I am reading a blog post, email, or other form of prose and I see those same claudisms. I guess they are not annoying since I know I am talking to an LLM and expect the typical responses. When I am reading prose online that I previously would have expected a human to write, it can be quite jarring to realize…

Exactly this. For whatever reason, Claude likes to talk about the "shape" of "load-bearing" "seams," but if that's the internal jargon it needs to plan and execute its work, who am I to judge? But if I'm reading what is supposed to be someone's original thoughts, it's a huge bummer to see an obvious AI tell. You might say that "it's not just disappointing—it's disrespectful."

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Re: How to stop Claude from saying load-bearing

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The biggest consistent tell for LLM writing is when the conversation leaks through into the final prose.

You read along with the text and things seem to be going fine until all of the sudden it starts arguing against a position that no one has actually taken and which doesn't feature elsewhere in the text at all. Then it drops that and goes on for a while before doing the whole thing again about a totally different tangent.

"A tempting option would be to {do this thing that no one would ever actually consider doing}, but it won't work because {reasons}."

You can almost hear the exasperated human on the other side of this conversation telling Claude that it got an idea wrong and then proceeding to not actually proofread the text as a whole before shipping it.

Re: How to stop Claude from saying load-bearing

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This comment leaves me even more confused.

An LLM is just a machine, you can manipulate it with words. > It can be tricky for humans to interpret the meaning when Generative AI uses first-person pronouns (e.g. "I", "me", "my", "myself") These words are for the LLM. The user wants the LLM to not use personal pronouns so the user is claiming that they're confusing. It does not matter one tiny bit whether or not that claim is true, the claim is being used to get…

Calling it "obedience" still seems to me like anthropomorphizing. It's really difficult to avoid, hmm?

Re: How to stop Claude from saying load-bearing

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If I’m having a convo with someone and they drop in “honestly” I immediately discount everything else they’ve said, and what follows. Sometimes people use it reflexively and doesn’t carry the same meaning (for me).

Yes. Its a red flag that indicates everything else you’ve said is not honest by implication.

This is expected in any level of people management, you are constantly balancing conflicting desires and priorities.

Re: How to stop Claude from saying load-bearing

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Lately, I feel like as GEN AI text becomes the majority, human-written text is starting to resemble it too. I'm Korean, and there are sites and people who mainly curate the latest technologies. Even those people, probably tired of translating every time, have started summarizing things with AI. But recently, I've noticed that even when people don't use AI, their writing is starting to look like GEN AItext. I think th…

This is why when I even sniff a hint of Claude phrasing I close the article and block the person on all devices. I'd literally rather be lobotomized than sound like this shit. The fact that anyone can read AI text without immediately starting to dry heave is a pretty damning indictment of their character

I actually think it's better. Back when access to knowledge was only available in English, there was a lot of mistranslated information in my language (Korean) that was worse than AI slop. These days, the translations are done by AI, so the tone may be awkward, but the content is more accurate than before, so I don't mind.

So that's the difference. I'm already living in a degraded environment, so this actually feels like an improvement to me. But you, coming from a better environment, perceive it as worse. It always seems to depend on cultural context.

Re: How to stop Claude from saying load-bearing

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Good. I don't want LLMs sounding human. I want the ability to shame and discredit anyone passing the job of prose to a machine. There's an art to writing, and hopefully LLMs never truly get it right.

> I want the ability to shame and discredit anyone passing the job of prose to a machine. What about people who don’t speak your language well?

I've dealt with many people by now who would copy and paste from an LLM for that exact reason, typically entirely unaware of how obvious it was that the result came from an LLM with no style guidance, and of course completely lacking any ability to verify that their intent was faithfully conveyed.

I would rather learn their language than continue interacting like that.

Re: How to stop Claude from saying load-bearing

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This is a minor nit, but why is OP's script a Python script with a .sh extension? I know the extension doesn't "matter", but if I see a .sh extension I'm expecting a Bash script.

Cause it was written by AI?

If anything it proves the opposite imo.
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