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Your 'app' could have been a webpage (so I fixed it for you)

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Re: Your 'app' could have been a webpage (so I fixed it for you)

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I recently decided to publish an app on the App Store just so I could say I accomplished that, and maybe even make a little bit of beer money on the side. Now, I’ll be the first to admit that my actual app is pretty much garbage. I don’t expect it to be popular. It’s basically a worse version of stuff that is already available. I expected this to be a learning exercise about the process of getting stuff published. Lo…

Yeah it’s all a pain. One thing that helped was using hotwire native. It is basically a web view but it bridges the mobile app with your website and wraps it into a mobile app. This is the only way I can make apps now. Flutter never worked well for me.

Re: Your 'app' could have been a webpage (so I fixed it for you)

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A store is more reasonable to put your name on because generally if you want to meet the person running it you could just walk into it regardless of whether you know their name. The internet has created a culture of deranged harassment that makes posting your identity online alongside anything you publish more insane than ever. And your market is more or less the entire world rather than your local community.

Occasionally mobs of hateful psychos will target individuals with harassment. There is absolutely not enough protection from unwanted messages, unwanted phone calls, false reports to SWAT teams, identity theft, who knows what else.

In Europe, a lot of the protection is that they have to provide their own identity to access the system. So I can host something on my internet connection, which is tied to my ID, and people can DoS it, but those people also have to provide ID for their own internet connections and can be traced, unless they are outside Europe in which case I can solve it by blocking all other countries. If someone spam-calls me from Europe, their phone is registered to their ID and caller ID is strictly enforced, so I know who is spamming me. For this reason there are few spam calls. If someone sends me a letter - well, I don't think sender address is mandatory because it couldn't be enforced. If someone wants to look up my details on the business registry, they leave a record showing who is looking them up.

Re: Your 'app' could have been a webpage (so I fixed it for you)

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  > With only a couple of minutes experimentation I discovered that the app works by concatenating the username and password5 and using it in a URL of the form:
In 2026, these terrible practices still common. Meanwhile we are discussing the LLM generated code quality, the race to the bottom continues...

Re: Your 'app' could have been a webpage (so I fixed it for you)

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Nobody here is talking about the fact that a significant number of users want apps, too. I'm responsible for an internal tool at the company I work for, hosted as a website, that handles a bunch of miscellaneous tasks that other employees need. Think reimbursements, documentation and reporting, gathering and presenting business data. That sort of thing. When I took it over, it was desktop only ( a lot of formatted pa…

I really wish PWAs were more well-known among average users. If people knew and expected they could install certain websites as apps, that would simplify things so much and really balance the power of the app stores.

Re: Your 'app' could have been a webpage (so I fixed it for you)

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I once read that app users are seven times more profitable than web users. That easily answers the author's question about why a company would bother make an app when a web page is the natural fit for the use case. I don't remember the source or methodology for that number, but I have no trouble believing it. An app gives the developer a foothold on the user's device. It can more easily send notifications, track the…

I mean, I don't know if that's a generation thing or what but as much as I'm comfortable using my phone, and ordering things in my phone's apps, when it's a website and I'm on mobile I always feel an urge to go to my desktop or laptop to check and do it there, I don't "trust" mobile websites as they always seem to give a limited set of information. Or at least that's the vibe I'm getting.

I'm fine using my mobile browser for things. What I'm not fine on is using the, um, internet intent thing that comes up when you click on a link in slack or email or something and isn't actually you're browser and if you switch applications it might go away forever?

Re: Your 'app' could have been a webpage (so I fixed it for you)

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Exactly. I've published apps. When GP says their actual app is "pretty much garbage" and that there was red tape and nitpicking - Apple is trying to stop garbage !

> When GP says their actual app is "pretty much garbage" and that there was red tape and nitpicking - Apple is trying to stop garbage! and failing at it, because that garbage got published on the app store.

Yeah, that part was a bummer. I get that Apple has incentives at cross purposes there. Do they have a higher bar than Google? Can we even tell?

Re: Your 'app' could have been a webpage (so I fixed it for you)

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Because of how the EU law was written

Nope, at least in Play Store it's because of how Google chooses to run their store. Google is the middleman between two sides of the transaction and its the developer that actually sells these apps, while Valve is one of the sides of the transaction and sells things based on the license granted by the developer. Not sure how Apple does it though.

Google publishes seller contact and Google and Apple both do so because of how EU law was written as it pertains to how they set up their stores

Re: Your 'app' could have been a webpage (so I fixed it for you)

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Yes, you are part of the generation that 'buys things' on an actual computer. Get much older or much younger and they'll use apps instead.

Am I the only person who buys things on mobile websites? I feel like most apps are just websites rendered in webviews with a bunch of background tracking added, and websites create a bit of a firewall between my OS/filesystem and the application.

I hate installing apps, sitting tracking my data in the background, and then there are often silly restrictions such as copy/paste being disabled, for what is basically just a web app.

On well implemented mobile websites, Google password manager pops up as does Google pay, can even authenticate with my fingerprint, zero friction. Theres zero need for an app.

And that's coming from a millennial who used to buy big ticket items on the PC.

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