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Re: Demis Hassabis has a plan to harness AI safely

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Post by orbital-decay »

SpicyLemonZest wrote: post #50
techpression wrote: post #42

Has anything really important been solved by AI yet, or where is this radical (imo) belief around AGI coming from? Genuinely curious, I know there are some math problems solved and ML has been used for far longer than AI to improve things, but where is clean (efficient) energy, the cure for cancer (or any of the horrible neurological disorders, take your pick), new hardware designs, quantum computing solutions, etc e…

The point is that we need to have a safety plan in place before an AI is smart enough to radically reshape the world. If you've got an AI that's ready to start sending humanity into the next era of civilization, it may be too late to control when and how it does that. > Heck, a proof for P=NP or P!=NP or solve the The Riemann Hypothesis. Just give me something truly exciting and I will believe AGI is around the corne…

A safety plan. It doesn't have to be "a few very smart people detached from reality convincing themselves they're messiahs that must keep the tech from the Bad Guys(tm), unwashed masses, and a runaway, because they think their interpretation of their own sci-fi lore is the only possible course of events"

>I hope you'll keep this in mind when those milestones are reached.

The problem is that people in charge of AI keep making self-fulfilling prophecies. Just like with any research, if you want to find something sensible in the cloud patterns, you will.

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Post by estearum »

cmrdporcupine wrote: post #63
estearum wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's called the carrot The beauty of the United States' global hegemony is that it also has lots of sticks

Less and less every day. Funny thing about beating people with sticks (or even threatening to) is they tend to want to get out of way and stay away from you.

Agreed!

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Post by nradov »

SirHackalot wrote: post #120
nradov wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's so weird that anyone would consider a story by hack writers for a cheesy sci-fi show made to sell advertising as a basis for policy discussions.

You don’t like Star Trek TNG? Maybe I should’ve picked LoTR or Atlas Shrugged? The tech oligarchy is more than fine co-opting fiction (fantasy and sci-fi especially). I don’t see why it’s weird at all… Aside from that, your critique is just an opinion about the show itself and its creators (and incentives?…). More importantly, you completely failed to address the "slave" argument.

I didn't say that I didn't like it. It's fine as casual entertainment. Only a fool would take it as anything more than that.

Electrons can't be a slave. The "argument" is so silly as to be unworthy of a serious response. People getting wrapped up in this stuff need to touch grass.

Re: Demis Hassabis has a plan to harness AI safely

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Post by SirHackalot »

nradov wrote: post #123
SirHackalot wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don’t like Star Trek TNG? Maybe I should’ve picked LoTR or Atlas Shrugged? The tech oligarchy is more than fine co-opting fiction (fantasy and sci-fi especially). I don’t see why it’s weird at all… Aside from that, your critique is just an opinion about the show itself and its creators (and incentives?…). More importantly, you completely failed to address the "slave" argument.

I didn't say that I didn't like it. It's fine as casual entertainment. Only a fool would take it as anything more than that. Electrons can't be a slave. The "argument" is so silly as to be unworthy of a serious response. People getting wrapped up in this stuff need to touch grass.

Anyone who believes AGI is imminent is operating on pure materialism (those two Venn diagrams pretty much make a circle), assuming that humans are nothing more than a collection of neural electrical connections and chemical reactions. If that's the case, your argument applies equally to humans under the assumption that AGI is possible. Frankly, I think you just can't reason philosophically...

You’ve also name called me multiple times now. That’s what one does when they can’t lean on the merit of their argument alone.

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Post by ponector »

noelwelsh wrote: post #3

The premise is "Artificial General Intelligence (AGI), a system that exhibits all the cognitive capabilities the brain has, is probably only a few short years away". If this is true, establishing an institution to ensure things like "publishing model cards with technical details, maintaining strong internal cybersecurity, vetting key personnel, and providing sufficient resourcing for safety and security research" is…

Both AGI and nuclear fusion are a few short years away.

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Post by gmuslera »

noelwelsh wrote: post #3

The premise is "Artificial General Intelligence (AGI), a system that exhibits all the cognitive capabilities the brain has, is probably only a few short years away". If this is true, establishing an institution to ensure things like "publishing model cards with technical details, maintaining strong internal cybersecurity, vetting key personnel, and providing sufficient resourcing for safety and security research" is…

We should be able to draw the rest of the owl to get there. So far what we got is more inequality, less rights for people but more for corporations (and immunity to consequences/abuses).

Getting even more power will make the ones that control resources to reach something similar enough to AGI to share their profits? realistic/practical/widespread UBI in all the world?

The dynamics that have been shown so far points in the opposite direction. AIs have "rights" that humans does not and humans are slowly losing the ones they used to have.

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