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Re: How to stop Claude from saying load-bearing

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post #98

"substrate" - I don't know what training they did with Opus 4.7 --> Fable/Mythos 5, but dang does it like the word substrate. Drives me insane. I had never heard anyone use this word prior in real technical writing or speaking.

Another one is "surface", like in "across all product surfaces". I've been in the field for 15 years and have never heard that particular usage before.

In my brief and abortive foray into education, I discovered that they friggin' love to use "surface" as a verb. As in: This activity surfaces an understanding of the turboencabulation principle for learners. Or somesuch. It's been a while, happily.

Unless you're a submarine, "surface" is not a verb.

Re: How to stop Claude from saying load-bearing

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post #98

"substrate" - I don't know what training they did with Opus 4.7 --> Fable/Mythos 5, but dang does it like the word substrate. Drives me insane. I had never heard anyone use this word prior in real technical writing or speaking.

Another one is "surface", like in "across all product surfaces". I've been in the field for 15 years and have never heard that particular usage before.

Recently read some LLM generated output that mentioned the “center of gravity” within a codebase.

Also have read the term “seam” dozens of times by now, when previously I saw it maybe once or twice over years. Very abstract term.

Re: How to stop Claude from saying load-bearing

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post #108

It's not that it uses certain phrases, it's that it settles on predictable speech patterns and uses them incessantly. What's funny is that humans do this too, but we don't find it irritating; we just call it a speaking style. But when a machine does it, it drives us crazy. Very interesting psychological phenomenon there.

it’s not a psychological phenomenon. If a human engineer constantly used pompous language to deliver unvetted information (the number of claude slop root-cause analyses i’ve read where “the smoking gun” is a red herring) we’d rightly consider them a moron

Who is we? Own your insults and the consequences of them sir.

When prompting an autoregressive token generator entity to do reasoning on a word logic puzzle you may find value in preferring it to produce rigorous predicate logic step notation with explicit delineation of its generated claims/hypotheses on where to look before wasting 30 dollars on a "debug this" prompt.

The industry will probably will probably coalesce around including the chat history in git MRs to reduce this shenanigans.

Re: How to stop Claude from saying load-bearing

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post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good. I don't want LLMs sounding human. I want the ability to shame and discredit anyone passing the job of prose to a machine. There's an art to writing, and hopefully LLMs never truly get it right.

Agreed. The only goal of these skills/tricks/requests for humanising LLM writing is to be able to pass it off as your own, because they know it's shameful and want to avoid the opprobrium. Some will say it's just for their own quality of life when they're reading LLM output, or "just for docs", but this is an extremely marginal use case.

I don't want LLM docs either

Re: How to stop Claude from saying load-bearing

#187

It's not that it uses certain phrases, it's that it settles on predictable speech patterns and uses them incessantly. What's funny is that humans do this too, but we don't find it irritating; we just call it a speaking style. But when a machine does it, it drives us crazy. Very interesting psychological phenomenon there.

> but we don't find it irritating Yes we do! My wife keeps saying "100%" and after I pointed it out she's stopped. Also I talk to dozens of different people in my life and they all have different overused phrases. Much less tedious when there's variety. Finally most human don't do it nearly as often as AI, and they're not quite as LinkedIn as AI. We don't find it more annoying because it's a machine - it's simply mor…

Did you negotiate her down to "99%"?

Re: How to stop Claude from saying load-bearing

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post #132

load-bearing, belt-and-suspenders, wrinkle, shape, coarse-grained, "key chords", code seams, flakiness, "narrow-scoped by default", "that's the authoritative source", canonical symptoms, gate, trigger-happy users, substrate, surface (as in: "let's surface how much these models sound like shit"), terse... Ever since Opus 4.7, Anthropic models have begun to talk like GPT-models. Opus 4.6 was the last one that mostly st…

Fable has some Marvin the Android vibes going. It just sounds depressed all the time.

Re: How to stop Claude from saying load-bearing

#190
post #98

"substrate" - I don't know what training they did with Opus 4.7 --> Fable/Mythos 5, but dang does it like the word substrate. Drives me insane. I had never heard anyone use this word prior in real technical writing or speaking.

The first week I encountered this "substrate" I asked it to justify the usage and IIRC it claimed the word is used in some infra/systems lexicons... I wonder...

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