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Are we offloading too much of our thinking to AI?

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Re: Are we offloading too much of our thinking to AI?

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Post by FinnLobsien »

I think this is absolutely an issue.

The rise of knowledge work made many people far less physically active because moving one's body was no longer a given part of one's job. This led to a lot of people (who assumed sports was exercise on top of one's work, not the only source of exercise) moving very little. This meant we needed to rediscover the importance of exercise as a pillar of health.

I think something similar will happen with knowledge work, where we have to do a lot less cognitive exercise due to AI (as well as the decline of reading and rise of short-form video), which will likely lead to eventual issues and subsequently, a rise in activities designed to replicate the cognitive exercise work used to provide.

Re: Are we offloading too much of our thinking to AI?

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Post by vasco »

dentm42 wrote: post #31

The question presumes that most of us are "thinking" in the first place, when in actuality, most of us are just acting according to the patterns that have emerged from our encounters with the thoughts of others. We generally adopt them and/or try to hallucinate coherence when they conflict. Very few people actually "think". It's hard work and takes time. We neither have (take) the time nor are we particularly motivat…

Everyone is always thinking, just many of us not about what we're doing! Sorry

Re: Are we offloading too much of our thinking to AI?

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Post by h2aichat »

The answer to this question is: Politicians, not you!

Perhaps the question to ask is: who is making all of the final decisions for the things that really matter to you in your life?

No direct democracy, just people deciding for you. You can choose once every four years. Are we surprised of how easily we delegate decisions? May be AI can do it better

Re: Are we offloading too much of our thinking to AI?

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Post by helterskelter »

saulpw wrote: post #35
helterskelter wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

OT, but if we made kids learning math use log tables and slide rules for all their calculations I expect that they would engage their brains more and actually think about what they were doing, ie: form a strategy to solve a problem before they started calculating. Also I think that they would get a better "feel" for working numbers in general. I have no evidence, but I suspect that by abstracting away a lot of the "g…

I'm working on this! https://magworld.pw

Looks interesting, I'll give this a listen and a read. :)

Re: Are we offloading too much of our thinking to AI?

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Post by lbrito »

The post is illustrated by a picture of handwritten notes, like that was supposed to shock the reader or something. I find this aesthetic tiring, and it usually comes from AI-maxxers. To me its saying: look at this quaint relic of the past, bereft of day-to-day utility, replaced by superior technology. Its life is now only as a symbol of a time where people actually used their brains.

Re: Are we offloading too much of our thinking to AI?

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Post by rescbr »

inigyou wrote: post #10
nsxwolf wrote: post #8

Having a very dangerous AI standoff at work, where people are debating wether or not to use a particular connection pooling / threading strategy to fix a production issue, and everyone is unqualified to answer and is instead arguing what their agent said. They are just straight up admitting they don't know anything, and advocate fiercely for their agent's recommendation. No one cares, no one tries to stop this behavi…

Run both. Benchmark them. Performance is notoriously difficult to predict and much easier to test. If you have a load balancer, run the new strategy on one or two servers and see how their throughput compares to the others.

Exactly! It got so easy nowadays to use AI to setup scenarios since the busy work of writing code/test harnesses and setting things up for the benchmark is done by the machine. Then throw away what does not work.

Some benchmark that would take weeks to plan, code and set up is now hours and days - the time is now spent on the benchmark itself, not on temporary code.

Re: Are we offloading too much of our thinking to AI?

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Post by abirch »

dentm42 wrote: post #31

The question presumes that most of us are "thinking" in the first place, when in actuality, most of us are just acting according to the patterns that have emerged from our encounters with the thoughts of others. We generally adopt them and/or try to hallucinate coherence when they conflict. Very few people actually "think". It's hard work and takes time. We neither have (take) the time nor are we particularly motivat…

Have you ever read Kurt Vonnegut's Timequake? I think it's very applicable to the average human experience.

Re: Are we offloading too much of our thinking to AI?

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Post by hasteg »

zloy88 wrote: post #4

Maybe it's a way of perspective. I adore to use AI to actually learn, so I don't feel like I offload thinking. I use AI to do all the research which earlier I did manual through google search. I still make my own decisions, I just let Claude spoon feed me all infos I want and need. Feels great man

Using AI to actually learn is indeed very helpful I've found... I just don't think most people use it for that. I recently wanted to build and train my own (albeit, small and simple 10M param model) and used AI extensively to explain concepts for me, explain lines of code, and generate in depth visuals I can use to get a visual intuitive understanding of what is happening under the hood. I think people who have a natural curiosity to understand the why and how of things benefit immensely from it, but I do admit it is very easy to just offload all thinking to it instead of asking it why something is happening. I could have just asked it to implement the entire model using PyTorch and just ran the CLI command to begin training on some auto-generated dataset, but intentionally struggled through it. Actually learning from it requires intentionality for sure.
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