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No Spanish reading crisis?

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Re: No Spanish reading crisis?

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Spanish is one of the smallest languages in the world at ~93k words.

Most languages have hundreds of thousands, English has over a million.

Spanish is also nearly phonetic. It's very simple, there's only a few ways to express yourself in Spanish compared to other languages.

Overall, it's one of the easiest languages to master.

Re: No Spanish reading crisis?

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AI effect is delayed in less rich population.

Spain is as rich as Japan on GDP PPP, richer than Israel and New Zealand. Readership issues in countries like the USA started way before mass adoption of AI, so also it's not related to AI effects.

Saying Spain is rich while half the population lives on 1,000 euros per month (mil euristas) is crazy or just very "technically accurate".

Re: No Spanish reading crisis?

#63

Spanish is one of the smallest languages in the world at ~93k words. Most languages have hundreds of thousands, English has over a million. Spanish is also nearly phonetic. It's very simple, there's only a few ways to express yourself in Spanish compared to other languages. Overall, it's one of the easiest languages to master.

Yes, but I have an outrageous American English accent which ruins my attempt to speak it!

Re: No Spanish reading crisis?

#64

Spanish is one of the smallest languages in the world at ~93k words. Most languages have hundreds of thousands, English has over a million. Spanish is also nearly phonetic. It's very simple, there's only a few ways to express yourself in Spanish compared to other languages. Overall, it's one of the easiest languages to master.

The only thing you're right about here is that Spanish is "nearly phonetic" by which you mean that the writing system is orthographically transparent and very standardized. That's true and a huge benefit for learners.

The rest is not right, the word counts in particular is just a reflection of why counting words in a language is hard:

93k comes from the number headwords listed in the core RAE dictionary. The RAE's dictionary of Americanism adds another 70k entries. When you include historical and technical terminology, more comprehensive dictionaries will have well over 300k words.

Counting "over a million" from English comes from way, way more inclusive counting methods that throw in technical jargon, acronyms, global slang, etc. The OED, which would compare to the RAE dictionary numbers, lists only 171k words.

Beyond this, counting is complicated by the fact that compounding and morphological changes work differently, English will use different words in cases where Spanish would use suffixes, and will count compounds as words that in Spanish would be phrases.

"there's only a few ways to express yourself in Spanish compared to other languages." is very wrong. Spanish word order is massively more flexible than English, grammar and morphology more nuanced, they do things in different ways but this is a deep misunderstanding.

Re: No Spanish reading crisis?

#65
People tend to use the terms "Reading" and "Literate" to be interchangable but they really aren't. I'm sure there are plenty of kids (and adults) who "literally" can't read words and rely heavily on TTS and perhaps STT to interact with the world via their devices.

However the larger and probably more dire issue is of literacy which means you're not only able to read the words but fully understand them and make connections between ideas and be able to communicate what you read to other people. That's the idea that really matters because it unlocks an entire universe of additional learning and a deeper understanding of the world.

The lack of actual literacy is, in my opinion, why America is in such a pickle because there are probably generations of people at this point who fundamentally do not understand what is going on around them (and certainly don't understand any half-way complicated topic or situation) and just float around on "vibes" and their emotions (which they likely also do not understand fully).

Re: No Spanish reading crisis?

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Spanish is one of the smallest languages in the world at ~93k words. Most languages have hundreds of thousands, English has over a million. Spanish is also nearly phonetic. It's very simple, there's only a few ways to express yourself in Spanish compared to other languages. Overall, it's one of the easiest languages to master.

This is the sort of thing you should run through an LLM. I'm surprised people can read that and not have their bs radar go off.

The only way to get to a million English words is to start counting things that nobody considers separate, or even real words. Even if you were to use a real dictionary word count (a quick search tells me Merriam-Webster unabridged more than cuts your number in half), I'd wonder if they're counting eg "see" and "seen" as one or two words.

(Similarly, 93k comes from RAE, which is intentionally conservative. Just pulling in regional words gets you a few more tens of thousands.

Anyway, just a wild thing to read.

Re: No Spanish reading crisis?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The Prince from Machiavelli is required In Spain? Never heard of that, and would not make sense. An italian author writting about politics in Florence?

Why would it not? Divine Comedy and Jack London were both required reading in my Ukrainian school (in translation of course). So was tolstoevsky unfortunately.

Why unfortunately? Tolstoy and Dostoevky are generally recognized as great authors. Being Russian does not make them retrospectively Putinist, does it?

Re: No Spanish reading crisis?

#68

Spanish is one of the smallest languages in the world at ~93k words. Most languages have hundreds of thousands, English has over a million. Spanish is also nearly phonetic. It's very simple, there's only a few ways to express yourself in Spanish compared to other languages. Overall, it's one of the easiest languages to master.

You are counting only the words that have been accepted in the RAE dictionary. A word is only accepted when there is a noticeable usage. So there is a lot of words that have not reached the category of “word” officially, but they exist.

Apart from that, the dictionary only list root words, not derivatives.

Re: No Spanish reading crisis?

#69
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Self declared? worthless. Get me the kindle sale stats.

> Según los datos proporcionados, en el año 2025 la facturación en el mercado del libro superó los 1250 millones de euros, lo que supone un crecimiento del 4% respecto a los datos del año anterior. El número de libros vendidos alcanzó los 76 millones de libros impresos.

From https://institutoautor.org/espana-se-publican-los-datos-del-...

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