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Germany set to restrict its Freedom of Information Act

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Re: Germany set to restrict its Freedom of Information Act

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd generally agree, but my follow up question would be: which western country isn't?

Poland, but its on borrowed time due to the extreme fertility crisis.

Lol, what on earth makes you single out Poland as the single western country not in decay right now?

Re: Germany set to restrict its Freedom of Information Act

#32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd generally agree, but my follow up question would be: which western country isn't?

Poland, but its on borrowed time due to the extreme fertility crisis.

Is fertility so important?

Maybe the other western countries are equally infertile, but just allowed many immigrants in (which counts are population expansion) that also have more children on average.

How are Japan and Korea holing out? They are further down the infertility down-spiral.

Re: Germany set to restrict its Freedom of Information Act

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I don't think this would pass at all, the German parliament is now in summer break and once they're back there would be 3 federal state elections and depending on its outcome, the current government could collapse before the end of this year.

Lol, do you seriously think the 'alternative' would be any more progressive when it comes to freedom of information (or government transparency in general) once they'd be in power?

Re: Germany set to restrict its Freedom of Information Act

#34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd generally agree, but my follow up question would be: which western country isn't?

Poland, but its on borrowed time due to the extreme fertility crisis.

The very consumerism that has made it materially wealthy has fucked up its citizens' priorities. Indeed, because the wealth differential over the last 30 years is as steep as it is - and because people are generally petty - it actually creates a perverse incentive to prioritize wealth accumulation over family life just to "keep up". You don't want the Joneses to outdo you. You don't want to seem shabbier.

So, maybe rapid growth combined with consumerist impulses is a deadly combination for a society. If only rapid growth were combined with healthy and wise priorities...

Re: Germany set to restrict its Freedom of Information Act

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I'm not really sure I buy the alarm on restricting FoI requests to German citizens and EU citizens in Germany. Should a random US citizen be able to ask a random Germany government official for data? Why?

The problem is not to restrict it to German citizens, but removing it for everything which is not a citizen, like civil rights organizations, environment organizations, and everyone else who has a legit interest to check on the governments work.

Re: Germany set to restrict its Freedom of Information Act

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Germany is forgetting history already.

I dont think so, they want to repeat it, security-force should be implemented like in east-Germany, capitalism like in west-Germany and the wall is now in the Ukraine build with dead bodies instead of stone.

Re: Germany set to restrict its Freedom of Information Act

#38

I'm not really sure I buy the alarm on restricting FoI requests to German citizens and EU citizens in Germany. Should a random US citizen be able to ask a random Germany government official for data? Why?

The problem is not to restrict it to German citizens, but removing it for everything which is not a citizen, like civil rights organizations, environment organizations, and everyone else who has a legit interest to check on the governments work.

Civil rights organisations are staffed by citizens. What is the problem here?

Re: Germany set to restrict its Freedom of Information Act

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Wait? They previously allowed everybody and their mother to request the information? Limiting it to ‘citizens of the european union’ seems eminently reasonable.

Won't this require citizen to provide ID and therefore citizens asking difficult questions could become a target for retaliation?

Re: Germany set to restrict its Freedom of Information Act

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Worth noting that this is a push from the CDU who are leading the government, but their coalition partner the SPD has already come out pretty strongly against this, so it's rather unclear if this would ever actually go through (not to mention challenges from constitutional courts). The CDU cannot unilaterally push through legislation without the SPD. The SPD has rolled over for the CDU in the past on things, but they…

First phrase in the article: "Shortly before the German parliament's summer recess, lawmakers approved a whole series of reforms." Sounds like "done and dusted" to me. The Bundesrat (the second chamber of the parliament) also approved, er... something, but it's not clear to me if it's just the health measures or also the rest. What's left is for the Bundespräsident to sign it, but that's a formality. And yes, no idea…

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