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Re: Telegram's t.me domain has been suspended

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What’s with the shade on Montenegro? .me is a perfectly normal domain. And the government doesn’t even operate the registrar, it’s operated by doMEn d.o.o. which is a Montenegro version of an LLC.

ccTLD hacks are both semantically incorrect and geopolitically unstable. The .io TLD will likely be phased out in the future due to geopolitics, and all the companies who decided it was more important to signal how hacker jargon aware their startup was will have to go through the very difficult process of changing domains. In order to log into IRS.gov to get a code to pay my USA taxes, I had to verify my USA ID via a…

Every non-cc TLD is controlled by the USA which is also geopolitically unstable.

Re: Telegram's t.me domain has been suspended

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DNS pre-screen delegation detected for t.me watch=. scan=55461 previous: CLEAR_UNDELEGATED now: TAKEN_DELEGATED NS=ns-cloud-b1.googledomains.com, ns-cloud-b2.googledomains.com, ns-cloud-b3.googledomains.com, ns-cloud-b4.googledomains.com rcode=NOERROR server=a0.nic.me

Fixed.

Re: Telegram's t.me domain has been suspended

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registrars are bound by the political whims of those that allow them to exist there have been multiple domains that have been shut down at the behest of certain governments even when its well beyond their jurisdiction kiwi farms and 4chan are relatively harmless compare to what Telegram enables yet kiwi farms was taken offline at the behest of a political camp that has certain opinions about very basic stuffs that sh…

> kiwi farms and 4chan are relatively harmless compare to what Telegram enables yet kiwi farms was taken offline at the behest of a political camp that has certain opinions about very basic stuffs that shouldn't even be grounds to be considered. Literally what the fuck is this take? Kiwifarms' central purpose for existing is to organize doxxing and harassment efforts. It has harassed multiple people into committing s…

The wrong thing is that instead of going after doxxers, and reducing data collection to prevent leaks, they simply force the sites go to Tor network.

And now Europeans want everyone to send a selfie and a passport to register at sites, which only makes doxxing easier. Clowns.

Also, doxxing is relatively harmless. You won't die just because someone posts your passport online.

Re: Telegram's t.me domain has been suspended

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> the Montenegrin government is NOT at fault Who gave management of the TLD to foreign interests? Montenegrin government.

You're right, their fault is not choosing to manage it themselves

I think you're being sarcastic? Because you don't believe they are responsible for the actions of their agents?

If I hire someone to file my taxes, and they lie/cheat/steal. I'm still going to jail.

I don't think they should be required to answer for this fuck up, but if they not angry at their chosen agents, it's because they're on the wrong side, and deserve some blame too.

Re: Telegram's t.me domain has been suspended

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post #243

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Curiously enough, .me's whois record does not list Identity Digital as a contact (as seems to be standard practice with externally-managed ccTLDs, such as .gi), and .me is not listed on Identity Digital's "TLD Portfolio"[0] On the other hand, all of their infrastructure (registry websites, nameservers, whois server) are hosted on Identity Digital, Godaddy, and Afilias IPs. Does anyone know what the relationship betwe…

Absolutely. According to a recent Montenegro government document, doMEn is owned by: GoDaddy.com LLC 38.352% Identity Digital Limited 36.848% ME-net (local montenegrinian network) 24.8%. doMEn is the registry of .ME.

llm output?

Re: Telegram's t.me domain has been suspended

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post #223

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And end-to-end encryption not supported on web client and doesn't sync properly between devices. Useless.

>> doesn't sync properly between devices which is good, actually. We don't want a way through which a server could tell a new device all the information it needs to decrypt messags

yeah, it is good! I hate usability features too!

Re: Telegram's t.me domain has been suspended

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You're right, their fault is not choosing to manage it themselves

I think you're being sarcastic? Because you don't believe they are responsible for the actions of their agents? If I hire someone to file my taxes, and they lie/cheat/steal. I'm still going to jail. I don't think they should be required to answer for this fuck up, but if they not angry at their chosen agents, it's because they're on the wrong side, and deserve some blame too.

No I am not sarcastic, I think it's sad that countries give up the autonomy of controlling their sovereign domain to random foreign American companies

Re: Telegram's t.me domain has been suspended

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post #110

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I mean, the government of Montenegro is a reasonable European democracy on its, admittedly slow, way to join the EU and is a NATO member. It’s not really any different than this website we are now on being at the whim of the US government.

The biggest difference is the role of ICANN and their willingness to regulate the management of a TLD. With ccTLD they have an official policy to be hands off and not dictate what a country will do with their top level domain. If the US government would start to mess with Verisign and how the registry handles domain, then ICANN is within their own policy to just move it somewhere else. The government of Montenegro co…

ICANN is a nonprofit in California. It doesn’t really have any power on its own. It only exists because everyone from browser developers to server operators to consumers agrees we need a central place to organize stuff.

If the US justice system issued a warrant telling Verisign to do X, what do you think the courts would do to ICANN if they tried to actively stop X from happening? At best, they would be politely asked to stop, at worst, they would get felony charges for obstruction.

Re: Telegram's t.me domain has been suspended

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Absolutely. According to a recent Montenegro government document, doMEn is owned by: GoDaddy.com LLC 38.352% Identity Digital Limited 36.848% ME-net (local montenegrinian network) 24.8%. doMEn is the registry of .ME.

llm output?

Here's the source for what I'm saying: https://wapi.gov.me/download/0d9fcdc2-c491-4b2c-9a71-d493af1...
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