Thinking Machines is back? Or is this a jaded attempt to use the brand for cache?
The Future Worth Building Is Human
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#22Seems to echo (but in a watered down form) many of the ideas in https://gwern.net/guardian-angel, which gave me a lot to think about last week
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#23Why would you call your company Thinking Machines if you believe this, by calling them that you're already framing them as replacing the human act of thinking. Feels like they appropriated the name first, then pivoted ideologically to differentiate themselves from everyone else.
The advent of thinking machines only replaces human thinking if humans choose to stop thinking.
Sure, humans will be sitting at home unemployed with plenty of time to think. They just won't be doing any thinking that has much of an affect on the world or their situation.
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#24> Artificial intelligence can do more every day, but deciding what it should do is up to us
> For artificial intelligence to benefit from distributed knowledge, it must itself be distributed.
I wish to highlight these two important concepts, with which I fully agree.
Artificial intelligence must enable all of humanity to excel and realize its full potential; it must not be used for the purposes of war, economic competition, or gaining dominance over others.
In other words: artificial intelligence must serve natural intelligence, not the other way around.
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#25Why would you call your company Thinking Machines if you believe this, by calling them that you're already framing them as replacing the human act of thinking. Feels like they appropriated the name first, then pivoted ideologically to differentiate themselves from everyone else.
To add to others, thinking was never only a human act
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#26Thinking Machines is back? Or is this a jaded attempt to use the brand for cache?
Not that one. This one is a start-up founded by ex-oAI CTO Mira Murati. Last I heard they were mainly doing hosted finetunes with a few clicks on popular open models.
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#27> Artificial intelligence can do more every day, but deciding what it should do is up to us > For artificial intelligence to benefit from distributed knowledge, it must itself be distributed. I wish to highlight these two important concepts, with which I fully agree. Artificial intelligence must enable all of humanity to excel and realize its full potential; it must not be used for the purposes of war, economic compe…
A massive amount of human natural intelligence goes into war, economic competition and gaining dominance over others though?
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#28Oh man, all of these press releases are definitely worth billions of dollars.
They're making a "few hundred million of ARR" - not bad for a company who only launched their first product, a training platform called Tinker in October last year. https://x.com/deedydas/status/2072340532718887068
Show me the receipts. Thats one guy on a podcast.
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#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
Won't you suffer from muscle atrophy in a such a low-G environment?
Inevitably yes, the question is whether the combined cyborg is still better than the original human. E.g. I'm sure we are generally less skilled in mental arithmetic since the advent of the calculator, but it has allowed us to solve vastly more complex problems in the end.
> E.g. I'm sure we are generally less skilled in mental arithmetic since the advent of the calculator, but it has allowed us to solve vastly more complex problems in the end.
This is like saying we have been getting a lot worse at walking since the advent of the car but it has allowed us to practice global trade in the end.
Yes cars are a part of the solution but there are a lot more factors at play.
A calculator does not do math, a calculator (and computer) calculates or computes. The math is the study and understanding of the problem space (and the problem solving) that the human is doing behind the calculator.
"solve vastly more complex problems" the calculator has accelerated this but it is not really a cause effect relation. The advancements in the understanding of the complex problems could've also happened without calculators and the computation could have been done instead (for example) with 1000 people in a bunker.
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#30We power AI with methane because it's a powerful greenhouse gas. That's because the future worth destroying is human. If it wasn't we wouldn't be destroying it, duh.