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Re: The infinite scroll may become endangered if controversial Calif. law passes

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Hello, what right do you have to regulate the presentation of speech ? If you regulate this format because it’s now considered harmful, what stops El Presidente from moving to ban “zines” because the format is “harmful to young minds” and used by “antifa”? What stops CA from moving to ban forums because threaded formats are suddenly considered “too addicting”? Maybe we should ban VR or first person shooter video game…

Courts already do lawfully regulate the “presentation of speech” as you’re calling it. Say facebook was to present each post surrounded by pornography for example. That’s clearly a “presentation of speech” in your framing. However courts have decided that it is possible to regulate the circumstances under which that would or would not be ok and 1A arguments have not prevailed in that case.

That’s more likely to be publication in itself, not presentation, but regardless porn is one of the very few areas where the courts still listen to speech arguments. However, the remaining decisions allowing (limited) regulation of porn rely on complicated, twisted reasoning—it’s clear that the justices don’t like touching this subject and feel that there are still constitutional issues here that may eventually need to be resolved via amendment. Usually this involves classifying porn in some other context, so it’s no longer “just” speech. Then the non-speech part can be regulated. Whenever they do this, they like to draw a very tight line biased towards favoring speech wherever possible, and they have consistently made it clear that they are not looking for more areas to do this kind of tightrope walking.

Re: The infinite scroll may become endangered if controversial Calif. law passes

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Fortunately social media contains neither heroin nor nicotine. All clear!

You seem incredibly sure about the health safety of a technology we've had for ~20 years and of which the daily usage has been steadily rising in that time. US kids average 5 hours/day on social media. By the way heroin use was widespread in the early 1900s, it took decades to regulate it even though the addictive and detrimental effects were very obvious to everyone. And let's not get started on nicotine. See the si…

I wasn’t aware that there was a public health exemption to the first amendment, and I’m having trouble finding it. Can you show me where to find it?

Re: The infinite scroll may become endangered if controversial Calif. law passes

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You seem incredibly sure about the health safety of a technology we've had for ~20 years and of which the daily usage has been steadily rising in that time. US kids average 5 hours/day on social media. By the way heroin use was widespread in the early 1900s, it took decades to regulate it even though the addictive and detrimental effects were very obvious to everyone. And let's not get started on nicotine. See the si…

I wasn’t aware that there was a public health exemption to the first amendment, and I’m having trouble finding it. Can you show me where to find it?

ony if you explain how infinite scroll is necessary for freedom of speech and of the press

Re: The infinite scroll may become endangered if controversial Calif. law passes

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Curious as to where the line between “addictive feature” and "good UX" is. Is deliberate pagination actual impedance to use or merely an annoyance that's been weeded out with modern UX design? When does a feature that simply makes your product easier to use cross into a territory that it's illegal? What about media previews, in a platform like reddit if you can preview or expand media directly from the main list is t…

coke cola used to have cocaine in it, it doesn't anymore, people in taste tests prefer the taste of Pepsi... Coke is still the leader in sales. Infinite scroll doesn't have a positive UX. If it takes an infinite amount of time to use your product, your product is shit. Unless your product is content, in which case endless scroll encourages thoughtless consumption behavior. That's not a good thing. We as engineers sho…

Rapid iteration on political issues is how you end up with oppression and legal terrorism. The brakes are there for a reason. But so is the valid process for changing the fundamental system (amendments).

Re: The infinite scroll may become endangered if controversial Calif. law passes

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This is irrelevant. It’s a question of rights and of creeping unconstitutional “regulation” that will begin to infect all aspects of software development and online publishing. The line has to be defended here.

What exactly is unconstitutional about regulating infinite scroll? Did your founding fathers fight for indipendence from GDPR?

Regulating the format and presentation of displayed information, on some kind of online publication, is almost certainly regulation of speech. 1A violation.

Re: The infinite scroll may become endangered if controversial Calif. law passes

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I wasn’t aware that there was a public health exemption to the first amendment, and I’m having trouble finding it. Can you show me where to find it?

ony if you explain how infinite scroll is necessary for freedom of speech and of the press

It doesn’t have to be necessary to be protected. 1A does not require that speech be “necessary”. Your rights are your rights.

Re: The infinite scroll may become endangered if controversial Calif. law passes

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ony if you explain how infinite scroll is necessary for freedom of speech and of the press

It doesn’t have to be necessary to be protected. 1A does not require that speech be “necessary”. Your rights are your rights.

You still are missing the point which is: how does infinite scroll relate to freedom of speech? It just doesn't.

Re: The infinite scroll may become endangered if controversial Calif. law passes

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It doesn’t have to be necessary to be protected. 1A does not require that speech be “necessary”. Your rights are your rights.

You still are missing the point which is: how does infinite scroll relate to freedom of speech? It just doesn't.

How does choosing your book’s font and margins apply to freedom of speech? Why should you get to choose that as an author/publisher?
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