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Re: Our Amish Language

#41

Post by krapp »

williamdclt wrote: post #39
lproven wrote: post #36

"TFR"?

According to gemini, "Total Fertility Rate" ("average number of children a woman would have over her lifetime if she experienced the current age-specific fertility rates of her society"). This HN thing of casually using acronyms without defining them is baffling to me

>This HN thing of casually using acronyms without defining them is baffling to me

You have a whole internet at your fingertips with which to look up terms you don't understand without diluting the thread, but if you need at all to do that you should consider that you might not have anything relevant to add to the conversation to begin with. Hacker News is supposed to be a forum of educated professionals and domain experts, we shouldn't have to dumb things down here.

Re: Our Amish Language

#42

Post by pantalaimon »

lproven wrote: post #37
panative wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don’t know what you are nitpicking and we don’t have the prompt or output, but from first-hand knowledge that was basically correct. “hooche Leit” is PA dialect for standard German “hohe Leute,” literally “high people” in the sense of “fancy” people as opposed to plain people, as there used to be “plain Dutch” and “fancy Dutch” to refer to plain (Anabaptist) Pennsylvania Germans as opposed to other (now basically a…

> the Ordnung What does that mean? (This entire thread is very hard for this Brit to follow. So many unknown words and whole concepts.)

the Order, as in community sharing/following a set of rules

Re: Our Amish Language

#43

Post by watwut »

krapp wrote: post #41
williamdclt wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

According to gemini, "Total Fertility Rate" ("average number of children a woman would have over her lifetime if she experienced the current age-specific fertility rates of her society"). This HN thing of casually using acronyms without defining them is baffling to me

>This HN thing of casually using acronyms without defining them is baffling to me You have a whole internet at your fingertips with which to look up terms you don't understand without diluting the thread, but if you need at all to do that you should consider that you might not have anything relevant to add to the conversation to begin with. Hacker News is supposed to be a forum of educated professionals and domain ex…

One must be really deep in some fertility obsessed subculture to think that TFR acronym should be instantly recognized when placed in tech forum discussion about minority language.

Otherwise said, using full expression is not "diluting the thread".

Re: Our Amish Language

#44

Post by [deleted] »

krapp wrote: post #41
williamdclt wrote: post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

According to gemini, "Total Fertility Rate" ("average number of children a woman would have over her lifetime if she experienced the current age-specific fertility rates of her society"). This HN thing of casually using acronyms without defining them is baffling to me

>This HN thing of casually using acronyms without defining them is baffling to me You have a whole internet at your fingertips with which to look up terms you don't understand without diluting the thread, but if you need at all to do that you should consider that you might not have anything relevant to add to the conversation to begin with. Hacker News is supposed to be a forum of educated professionals and domain ex…

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Re: Our Amish Language

#45

Post by krapp »

watwut wrote: post #43
krapp wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>This HN thing of casually using acronyms without defining them is baffling to me You have a whole internet at your fingertips with which to look up terms you don't understand without diluting the thread, but if you need at all to do that you should consider that you might not have anything relevant to add to the conversation to begin with. Hacker News is supposed to be a forum of educated professionals and domain ex…

One must be really deep in some fertility obsessed subculture to think that TFR acronym should be instantly recognized when placed in tech forum discussion about minority language. Otherwise said, using full expression is not "diluting the thread".

Asking pointless questions that can be answered with a simple Google search and complaining about other people's use of language do dilute the thread.

It's explicitly in the guidelines that we don't complain about voting because it "makes for boring reading." Complaining about acronyms has the same effect.

Re: Our Amish Language

#46

Post by fragmede »

williamdclt wrote: post #39
lproven wrote: post #36

"TFR"?

According to gemini, "Total Fertility Rate" ("average number of children a woman would have over her lifetime if she experienced the current age-specific fertility rates of her society"). This HN thing of casually using acronyms without defining them is baffling to me

It's baffling to you that people are comfortable in their niche and use their own jargon? Are you a baby that needs to be spoonfed every little bit of information?

Re: Our Amish Language

#47

Post by LoganDark »

krapp wrote: post #45
watwut wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One must be really deep in some fertility obsessed subculture to think that TFR acronym should be instantly recognized when placed in tech forum discussion about minority language. Otherwise said, using full expression is not "diluting the thread".

Asking pointless questions that can be answered with a simple Google search and complaining about other people's use of language do dilute the thread. It's explicitly in the guidelines that we don't complain about voting because it "makes for boring reading." Complaining about acronyms has the same effect.

seeing the definition for TFR in the thread is not boring reading because, as you say, it's something I would be expected to look up anyway.

Re: Our Amish Language

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Post by beacon294 »

trollbridge wrote: post #29
michalpleban wrote: post #15

> Difficult to communicate affection, impossible to say the word love. We have no distinct word for it. I wonder what it says about a community that its language has no word for "love".

This is flatly untrue; the language has a word for love, or people just use the High German or English term for it, along with colloquial expressions (like calling someone sweet). A statement like this makes the author lose all credibility: Neither our language nor our culture invites dwelling in the complexities of grief and loss. The language certainly can express grief and loss, and people from that culture seem t…

It's completely plausible the author's experience is a valid projection of the people they were surrounded by and also valid.

Re: Our Amish Language

#49

Post by DiogenesKynikos »

> Louden points out, for example, that Swedish and Norwegian are highly mutually intelligible, but neither is considered a dialect of the other, or of a parent language, primarily because each is associated with a separate nation-state.

This reminds me of the famous saying, "A language is a dialect with an army and navy."

It was also originally uttered in a German-adjacent language, Yiddish: "a shprakh iz a dyalekt mit an armey un flot."

I wonder whether locals in the German Palatinate region can still understand Pennsylvania Dutch, given that it supposedly originates from their dialect.

Re: Our Amish Language

#50

Post by skissane »

williamdclt wrote: post #39
lproven wrote: post #36

"TFR"?

According to gemini, "Total Fertility Rate" ("average number of children a woman would have over her lifetime if she experienced the current age-specific fertility rates of her society"). This HN thing of casually using acronyms without defining them is baffling to me

> This HN thing of casually using acronyms without defining them is baffling to me

It's called, I forgot. Next time I will try to remember.

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