You mentioned that Uber specifically forbids using their API for price comparison. Aren't you worried that they may implement something so you can't use internal APIs? I'm pretty sure none of the companies would like this app. Even though I think this is great and promotes fair pricing
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Re: Show HN: Hackney – Compare Uber, Lyft, Waymo, and Robotaxi Prices
#22You mentioned that Uber specifically forbids using their API for price comparison. Aren't you worried that they may implement something so you can't use internal APIs? I'm pretty sure none of the companies would like this app. Even though I think this is great and promotes fair pricing
It's possible they do that, but it's difficult to block third-party clients entirely. Changes to APIs can generally be worked around.
Re: Show HN: Hackney – Compare Uber, Lyft, Waymo, and Robotaxi Prices
#23Ah yes, an application that should exist in a free market but will probably disappear soon.
You are a good person. Keep going at it.
Re: Show HN: Hackney – Compare Uber, Lyft, Waymo, and Robotaxi Prices
#24Ah yes, an application that should exist in a free market but will probably disappear soon. You are a good person. Keep going at it.
Free markets are great.
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#25I'm wary to try this for fear of my Uber account getting locked. Great example of something that on-device general agents should be able to do: Operate the apps to get prices and summarize prices.
That's a valid concern but I think it's unlikely. No one's account has been locked for using this app. Rideshare companies take a large cut of the ride fare, so locking user accounts for using third-party apps is against their incentives. It's more likely that they would try to prevent this app from working, rather than targeting users of the app.
Not a ban, perhaps... but if I have two users - Alice who uses the app according to normal patterns, and Bob who consistently predicts and declines when my dynamic pricing algorithm tries to push above market pricing, and has a remarkably high look-to-book ratio - I'll want Alice to have better drivers, better service, faster pickups etc., because I'll have larger lifetime margins from choose-the-app-on-vibes-Alice than from race-to-the-bottom-Bob.
If my known-good supply is limited at any given time, I have every incentive to focus it on Alice, and I'd be inclined to try out e.g. new drivers on accounts like Bob's.
Rideshare data teams are incredibly talented, capable, and motivated. One does not simply front-run a market where the biggest players have a massive data advantage, control your latency, and are effectively unregulated.
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#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
That's a valid concern but I think it's unlikely. No one's account has been locked for using this app. Rideshare companies take a large cut of the ride fare, so locking user accounts for using third-party apps is against their incentives. It's more likely that they would try to prevent this app from working, rather than targeting users of the app.
Not a ban, perhaps... but if I have two users - Alice who uses the app according to normal patterns, and Bob who consistently predicts and declines when my dynamic pricing algorithm tries to push above market pricing, and has a remarkably high look-to-book ratio - I'll want Alice to have better drivers, better service, faster pickups etc., because I'll have larger lifetime margins from choose-the-app-on-vibes-Alice t…
An alternative possibility is that a rideshare company sees that Alice always takes the price that's offered so Alice receives the standard price, whereas Bob is price-sensitive so he receives personalized discounts on rides until the prices reach the amount that he's willing to pay.
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#27You mentioned that Uber specifically forbids using their API for price comparison. Aren't you worried that they may implement something so you can't use internal APIs? I'm pretty sure none of the companies would like this app. Even though I think this is great and promotes fair pricing
We need to make terms like that unenforceable in law with penalties if they do that anyway.
Re: Show HN: Hackney – Compare Uber, Lyft, Waymo, and Robotaxi Prices
#28Uses a British name, launches in America.
- Stolen Uber UI
- Slopped Uber illustrations
- Lloyds Bank logo
- Abused Uber API
Godspeed
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#29I'm wary to try this for fear of my Uber account getting locked. Great example of something that on-device general agents should be able to do: Operate the apps to get prices and summarize prices.
They barely want to ban drivers, you think they’re going to ban the revenue?!
Re: Show HN: Hackney – Compare Uber, Lyft, Waymo, and Robotaxi Prices
#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not a ban, perhaps... but if I have two users - Alice who uses the app according to normal patterns, and Bob who consistently predicts and declines when my dynamic pricing algorithm tries to push above market pricing, and has a remarkably high look-to-book ratio - I'll want Alice to have better drivers, better service, faster pickups etc., because I'll have larger lifetime margins from choose-the-app-on-vibes-Alice t…
An alternative possibility is that a rideshare company sees that Alice always takes the price that's offered so Alice receives the standard price, whereas Bob is price-sensitive so he receives personalized discounts on rides until the prices reach the amount that he's willing to pay.
Which is a competitive success story. It's much more profitable to avoid competition with abusive dynamic pricing and punish users for price-shopping.