A metallurgist's doubts about self-replicating probes
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A metallurgist's doubts about self-replicating probes
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Re: A metallurgist's doubts about self-replicating probes
#2We're along way from self replicating probes. But I would argue were quite capable of autonomous mining, manufacturing and material transport - assuming we can figure out how to refine effectively. If someone wants a cool PhD project and ship an experiment to the ISS, I would argue an ionic or plasma based refining technique designed for micro gravity could be very interesting and very useful
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#3Whenever I read of von Neumann probes I always thought "How can that even made possible?".
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#5But I can't see microgravity specifically as a huge challenge. If you can get a probe to another star system, you can probably figure out how to spin it.
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#6How many AI tells can you count there?
But honestly (see what I did there?) the AI slop is reasonably cleaned up in this piece.
However, the essence of the argument has two deep flaws. One is that the time to complete an interstellar voyage is extremely long and you need some exergy, yada, yada, yada. We could start with sending self-replicating probes to the asteroid belt. There is zero chance that we'll attempt to send self-replicating probes to a different star system before we send them inside our own solar system. And the second error is this:
> Bootstrapping this loop [...] is a chicken-and-egg problem that no study I am aware of has worked through at the level of actual process flowsheets.
The fact that the current technology is not adequate, and nobody even attempted to solve such a problem is a weak argument. Three hundred years ago nobody had "worked through the process flowsheets" of making an injection molding machine, or a 3D printer, or a power drill, yet they are all available now.
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#7> Shrinking that into a 500 kg seed — or even Freitas’ original 100-ton seed — is not an engineering detail. It may be the entire problem. How many AI tells can you count there? But honestly (see what I did there?) the AI slop is reasonably cleaned up in this piece. However, the essence of the argument has two deep flaws. One is that the time to complete an interstellar voyage is extremely long and you need some exer…
Re: A metallurgist's doubts about self-replicating probes
#8- Arthur C Clarke
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#9Re: A metallurgist's doubts about self-replicating probes
#10If an elderly but distinguished scientist says that something is possible, he is almost certainly right; but if he says that it is impossible, he is very probably wrong. - Arthur C Clarke