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Re: Telegram's t.me domain has been suspended

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Post by jonchurch_ »

michalpleban wrote: post #67
water-data-dude wrote: post #35

You can read an explanation of the status codes on the icann website. The explanation for clientRenewProhibited was interesting: "This status code tells your domain's registry to reject requests to renew your domain. It is an uncommon status that is usually enacted during legal disputes or when your domain is subject to deletion." Similar language for some of the other statuses like serverDeleteProhibited. https://ww…

The status that actually says the domain is suspended is serverHold.

Came to say this, ICANN says:

“This status code is set by your domain's Registry Operator. Your domain is not activated in the DNS.”

Also the serverDeleteProhibited status is active, which ICANN also admits is a weird and rare one:

“This status code prevents your domain from being deleted. It is an uncommon status that is usually enacted during legal disputes, at your request, or when a redemptionPeriod status is in place.”

https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/epp-status-codes-2014-...

Re: Telegram's t.me domain has been suspended

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Post by shishcat »

wwalexander wrote: post #108
FabCH wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What’s with the shade on Montenegro? .me is a perfectly normal domain. And the government doesn’t even operate the registrar, it’s operated by doMEn d.o.o. which is a Montenegro version of an LLC.

ccTLD hacks are both semantically incorrect and geopolitically unstable. The .io TLD will likely be phased out in the future due to geopolitics, and all the companies who decided it was more important to signal how hacker jargon aware their startup was will have to go through the very difficult process of changing domains. In order to log into IRS.gov to get a code to pay my USA taxes, I had to verify my USA ID via a…

FYI, 75,2% of doMEn d.o.o. is controlled by American companies (GoDaddy.com LLC 38.352%, Identity Digital Limited 36.848%)

Re: Telegram's t.me domain has been suspended

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Post by zuzululu »

gruez wrote: post #121
zuzululu wrote: post #113

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i think it makes perfect sense if you understand what telegram is and which country it benefits

Since when did registars care about the political positions of its clients? They could have registered on cloudflare or namecheap and I doubt they'd bat an eye. Telegram is mainstream enough that nobody is going to cancel them, unlike kiwi farms or 4chan.

registrars are bound by the political whims of those that allow them to exist there have been multiple domains that have been shut down at the behest of certain governments even when its well beyond their jurisdiction

kiwi farms and 4chan are relatively harmless compare to what Telegram enables yet kiwi farms was taken offline at the behest of a political camp that has certain opinions about very basic stuffs that shouldn't even be grounds to be considered.

Re: Telegram's t.me domain has been suspended

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Post by KomoD »

inigyou wrote: post #135
indolering wrote: post #73

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Montenegro (.me) seems to be aligned with the EU. But I would have expected there to see a legal ruling in France before Montenegro would do this sort of thing. I wouldn't be surprised if GoDaddy caved to request. They are known for giving up domains to anyone with a badge and a fax machine!

serverHold status means registry, not registrar, hold - the relevant protocol (not WHOIS) has the registry as the server, as you'd expect. But you are right about GoDaddy and they are a strange choice.

Yep.

clientHold = registrar (GoDaddy)

serverHold = registry (Montenegrin Registry)

Re: Telegram's t.me domain has been suspended

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Post by fsuts »

inigyou wrote: post #151
fsuts wrote: post #139

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If telegram disappeared then others would immediately take its place. Telegram also isnt device to device fully encrypted unless you use a more limited private chat and, as Telegram uses googles messaging service, so likely compromised to NSA anyway.

That's why they keep getting in trouble. They're not E2EE, but keep refusing court requests just because "we don't wanna"

They moved to Dubai?

So if a court order is obtained in UAE then they will likely comply, but not from other countries?

Re: Telegram's t.me domain has been suspended

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Post by sfdlkj3jk342a »

kaladin-jasnah wrote: post #64
Imustaskforhelp wrote: post #59

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Zulip is amazing. Nothing against that but what are your thoughts on fluxer and the others (recently chatto seems interesting, matrix, stoat are interesting options as well). Also awesome initiative by the way, how did you end up making it and I'd love to know some backstory about it actually as well.

Not the original commenter, but Matrix is awful. I used it on and off, and self-hosted it too. It's slow, bloated (I'm pretty sure I tried other homeservers). The app UI/UX is not great either. The E2EE stuff got better by the end but adoption-wise I was able to get way more people on Signal.

I agree that Matrix has a lot of problems, at least when used with the Element app, but I've found that voice calls are much better with Matrix compared to Signal over a flaky network. It was as good as WhatsApp in my experience.

Re: Telegram's t.me domain has been suspended

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Post by ventegus »

walrus01 wrote: post #80
ars wrote: post #39

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I would do something that isn't *.me, since it was them that suspended it.

.is might be a choice, since archive.is continues to be available despite many legal threats You don't have to be an Icelandic national to register a .is

kiwifarms and sci-hub have been kicked off .is

Re: Telegram's t.me domain has been suspended

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Post by zamadatix »

ivanmontillam wrote: post #60
chrisweekly wrote: post #58

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(2035 is less than 10 years from now)

(Yes, but it expires at 2035-05-20. If you count years by rounding up to integers, there's not enough time room to renew it an additional year. It would make it 11 years.)

Same for dog years, but why are we inventing ways to make it seem more than 10 years out when registries, quite reasonably, just use the date normally?
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