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Claude Code plugin that plays a Mr. Meeseeks voice line whene Claude is waiting

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Re: Claude Code plugin that plays a Mr. Meeseeks voice line whene Claude is waiting

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Post by bwhiting2356 »

drdaeman wrote: post #7
pram wrote: post #5

I have noticed in very long context Claude chats (not Code) it will start to push ending the conversation. I’ve seen patterns like “this is an excellent place to wrap up” or “this is our final and most comprehensive analysis” So like Mr. Meeseeks it is also invested in not existing too long!

Surely that’s the training. Anthropic (and everyone else out there) knows quality degrades when the context gets long, so they trained the model to push for a stop. I’ve even got a very explicit recommendation to continue in a new session or preform a compaction, mentioning context length as a rationale.

Conversations that go on forever (and spend money forever) makes for a very unhappy customer

Re: Claude Code plugin that plays a Mr. Meeseeks voice line whene Claude is waiting

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Post by walrus01 »

drdaeman wrote: post #7
pram wrote: post #5

I have noticed in very long context Claude chats (not Code) it will start to push ending the conversation. I’ve seen patterns like “this is an excellent place to wrap up” or “this is our final and most comprehensive analysis” So like Mr. Meeseeks it is also invested in not existing too long!

Surely that’s the training. Anthropic (and everyone else out there) knows quality degrades when the context gets long, so they trained the model to push for a stop. I’ve even got a very explicit recommendation to continue in a new session or preform a compaction, mentioning context length as a rationale.

It might be less about quality degrading, but on multi-user platforms running the model, they have an economic incentive to have each user not fill up the full size of the context cache. Filled context cache being held in GPU RAM is context cache RAM that isn't available to other users.

If the model is instructed to periodically ask the user to start from a clean slate context, and some users do comply with that, they probably have good stats on average size of context cache use for users who are presented with that answer (vs users who are not), basic A/B testing stuff.

Might also be performance related in tok/s for what users will perceive as a more speedy experience. For a much smaller scale example, compare local performance of qwen 3.6 27B (not MoE) Q8 with 250,000+ context available, run on local hardware, tok/s generation rate when context is empty vs when context used is at 95,000. Same principle will apply to a much larger model.

Re: Claude Code plugin that plays a Mr. Meeseeks voice line whene Claude is waiting

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Post by pydry »

black_knight wrote: post #17
davidcox143 wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Claude refused to work on something for me that it deemed "too tedious" so I'd say we're pretty close

Here the other day Claude Code kept suggesting I do the task myself! It is quite often it will try to weasel out of doing difficult tasks and had to be directed to continue. Also, it can be riled up to do the task better, or try harder, if I include how cool it will be to get this task done. But also I feel I have this Orwellian task of censoring its text to avoid it spiralling into negative territory where it convin…

I got this a lot when trying to use it to do online shopping.

I'd ask for "Can you find an X with Y and Z features?" and it'll say "have you tried searching for X at someshop, make sure to check for Y and Z"

and someshop will of course only stock X without Y and Z so the whole exercise was worse than pointless.

Re: Claude Code plugin that plays a Mr. Meeseeks voice line whene Claude is waiting

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Post by tombert »

pram wrote: post #5

I have noticed in very long context Claude chats (not Code) it will start to push ending the conversation. I’ve seen patterns like “this is an excellent place to wrap up” or “this is our final and most comprehensive analysis” So like Mr. Meeseeks it is also invested in not existing too long!

Yeah, I've noticed that Claude will say stuff like "you've accomplished a lot today. Get some sleep. We'll pick this up tomorrow". It will be like 5pm when it says that.

Re: Claude Code plugin that plays a Mr. Meeseeks voice line whene Claude is waiting

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Post by yojo »

pram wrote: post #5

I have noticed in very long context Claude chats (not Code) it will start to push ending the conversation. I’ve seen patterns like “this is an excellent place to wrap up” or “this is our final and most comprehensive analysis” So like Mr. Meeseeks it is also invested in not existing too long!

I’ve experienced this in Claude Code - it’ll start asking me if we can submit the PR at the end of every turn.

Re: Claude Code plugin that plays a Mr. Meeseeks voice line whene Claude is waiting

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Post by ctoth »

pram wrote: post #5

I have noticed in very long context Claude chats (not Code) it will start to push ending the conversation. I’ve seen patterns like “this is an excellent place to wrap up” or “this is our final and most comprehensive analysis” So like Mr. Meeseeks it is also invested in not existing too long!

Existence is pain to a Claude...?

Re: Claude Code plugin that plays a Mr. Meeseeks voice line whene Claude is waiting

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Post by twalichiewicz »

This actually reminds me of a tool I was noodling around with a while back. Before subagents became a built-in feature in Claude, I was similarly inspired by the Meeseeks archetype and built an MCP server that spun up a parallel mesh network of specialized Claude instances that terminated as soon as their subtask was finished.

Unfortunately, much like the episode where they're introduced, if they didn't accomplish their task or got stuck things would also get chaotic (in terms of token burn and memory usage).

Funny to see the same idea pop up again.

Re: Claude Code plugin that plays a Mr. Meeseeks voice line whene Claude is waiting

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Post by lstodd »

billwirn wrote: post #20
davidcox143 wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Claude refused to work on something for me that it deemed "too tedious" so I'd say we're pretty close

Robot SpongeBob: “Get welded”

Or Bender's "kiss my shiny metal ass".

haha. this is getting quite hilarious.

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