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Re: Telegram's t.me domain has been suspended

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Telegram is currently the target of legal/regulatory investigations by Russia (alleged extremism), France (likewise), and India (alleged facilitation of national exam leaking/cheating). I'm guessing the latter since it's the most recent and arguably has the most fiscal heft. Also very surprised to see Telegram was reliant on GoDaddy, notorious for its lack of transparency.

But Telegram hasn't engaged in that, some of their users have. I think the issue might be that although Telegram has a lot of abuse takedown activity, they do not permit access or direct action by authorities. If I recall, they have reiterated many times that some level or types of messages always remain private. Maybe that's the issue is that a lot of illicit activity is going on in private channels and whether or n…

>But Telegram hasn't engaged in that, some of their users have.

Yeah, but government workers just want a legal slam dunk to call it a day and collect the glory, and it's always easier to go after the platform where the crimes are being discussed, rather than after the individual users actually committing the crimes.

It's how government, prosecution and law enforcement jobs are incentivized to operate.

Re: Telegram's t.me domain has been suspended

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Which do you recommend?

squarespace is legit. GCP cloud domains are moved to them.

Never had any trouble with them, but also moving away from them is unnecessarily hard (the code sometimes takes a day to arrive) and they cover the entire interface with their paid hosting stuff which makes them a poor registrar. I ended up on them because of Google Domains selling off but got off them because very annoying to use.

Re: Telegram's t.me domain has been suspended

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post #81
post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But Telegram hasn't engaged in that, some of their users have. I think the issue might be that although Telegram has a lot of abuse takedown activity, they do not permit access or direct action by authorities. If I recall, they have reiterated many times that some level or types of messages always remain private. Maybe that's the issue is that a lot of illicit activity is going on in private channels and whether or n…

I always figured telegram got the screws turned on them all the time because their lack of E2E encryption meant it was viable to demand they proactively police the platform in the first place. Maybe Signal would just be outright blocked in these locales if it was anywhere near as popular, though.

in fact, telegram does support e2e encryption ("secret chats")

Re: Telegram's t.me domain has been suspended

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post #81
post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But Telegram hasn't engaged in that, some of their users have. I think the issue might be that although Telegram has a lot of abuse takedown activity, they do not permit access or direct action by authorities. If I recall, they have reiterated many times that some level or types of messages always remain private. Maybe that's the issue is that a lot of illicit activity is going on in private channels and whether or n…

I always figured telegram got the screws turned on them all the time because their lack of E2E encryption meant it was viable to demand they proactively police the platform in the first place. Maybe Signal would just be outright blocked in these locales if it was anywhere near as popular, though.

Signal is already well known to governments. In fact a few years ago there was a report in the UK media about how some governments used signal instead of official channels like email and did so because of Signals disappearing messages feature (ie making those MPs less accountable).

Re: Telegram's t.me domain has been suspended

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post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I always figured telegram got the screws turned on them all the time because their lack of E2E encryption meant it was viable to demand they proactively police the platform in the first place. Maybe Signal would just be outright blocked in these locales if it was anywhere near as popular, though.

in fact, telegram does support e2e encryption ("secret chats")

It does, but it's not enabled by default; and that's the point.

Re: Telegram's t.me domain has been suspended

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Telegram is currently the target of legal/regulatory investigations by Russia (alleged extremism), France (likewise), and India (alleged facilitation of national exam leaking/cheating). I'm guessing the latter since it's the most recent and arguably has the most fiscal heft. Also very surprised to see Telegram was reliant on GoDaddy, notorious for its lack of transparency.

Montenegro (.me) seems to be aligned with the EU. But I would have expected there to see a legal ruling in France before Montenegro would do this sort of thing. I wouldn't be surprised if GoDaddy caved to request. They are known for giving up domains to anyone with a badge and a fax machine!

Is the badge really that much of a requirement? I mean, if you have a fax machine, you must be a legit source to make that request.
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