Samsung should be fined out of existence for this.
Samsung Health app threatens data deletion if users opt out AI training
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#12shouldn't this get them turbo obliterated in europe?
no, in fact gdpr requires that they get consent before they process the data. They are not preventing people from accessing the data, only indefinite storage as i understand. They may claim that storage is needed for the processing (which might make sense, they want to train on the whole time series).
Indeed, gdpr was created for corporations to have legal basis to process and sell data. Before gdpr it was a gray area. It was never about privacy.
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#13In some way they are telling that they respect your privacy. Or they have your data (and then do something with it, now or later), or no one will.
They could provide some Google-style takeout to get your data before deletion, but that may not have any meaning or practical use without their devices and software.
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#14That reminds me of a story by a former coworker of mine, who had a xing account and repeatedly asked them to not send me him ads and spam e-mails. They ultimately closed his account.
Some companies are so dead set on doing this shit, that they don't even have mechanism in place that would enable them to act upon you opting out. It is a sign of dysfunctional companies. You can also observe this, when you send companies a GDPR request for deletion and they do eeeeverything to not have to go into their shitty system and delete the data, because that would require them to do manual work.
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#15> The company plans to grab four categories: your sleep, your medications, your medical records, and your cycle tracking details So you buy a device but you can't effectively use half of its features because you'd also have to agree to send them your medical records? Ok then if I refuse, will they refund 50% of the device price since now it's not usable any more?
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#16unshortened link: https://www.neowin.net/news/samsung-will-delete-your-health-...
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#17Where is the catch? You rather get two good things if you don't agree:
- Samsung deletes your sensitive health data
- Samsung does not use this data to train some AI
:-)
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#18In some way they are telling that they respect your privacy. Or they have your data (and then do something with it, now or later), or no one will. They could provide some Google-style takeout to get your data before deletion, but that may not have any meaning or practical use without their devices and software.
Completely agree. Or maybe, just like most products in tech -- they are currently en route to "take out" style data deletion... and it's being released shortly.
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#19Am I reading this wrong? It sounds like, short of self-hosting your health data, this is the best of both worlds. Avoiding zombie data retention and avoiding AI? Where do I sign?
Blocking backups and consequently reducing data portability doesn't really sound like the best of both worlds.
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#20> The company plans to grab four categories: your sleep, your medications, your medical records, and your cycle tracking details So you buy a device but you can't effectively use half of its features because you'd also have to agree to send them your medical records? Ok then if I refuse, will they refund 50% of the device price since now it's not usable any more?
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