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Volkswagen planning to cut up to 100.000 jobs globally

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Re: Volkswagen planning to cut up to 100.000 jobs globally

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I don't see how Tesla is a serious competitor in that matchup. Their sales have been declining for two years, and Chinese OEMs are clearly on the path to complete dominance in most foreign markets. In the US market, I think Hyundai (and to a much lesser extent Kia) is probably the most interesting OEM. EV sales that aren't declining, the highest American-made percentage vehicles (relevant given recent policy changes)…

2027 is going to change this sitnificantly. Toyota is releasing a full EV highlander, Honda is releasing the 0 series, Kia has some new EVs coming out. Next year is going to be a huge EV shift. Tesla is screwed.

>Tesla is screwed.

Deja-vu

Re: Volkswagen planning to cut up to 100.000 jobs globally

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> Volkswagen, like no other company, symbolizes the lethargy of the German economy and business environment A car development cycle is/was seven years in Germany. And that was totally fine. When the "Golf 7" comes up, the "Golf 8" doesn't come out only 2 years after. What happened is the EU (and Germany in particular) left only two development cycles to the biggest industry in Germany (and hence the biggest industry…

You drive your Audi, BMW, Porsche. Mercedes. I'm gonna drive a Toyota or a Honda since I don't like costly repairs, subscription chair heaters or getting screwed over.

You are in for a surprise if you think latest generation Toyotas or Hondas will be less costly to repair. Just look at the recent debacle with the V35A-FTS.

Re: Volkswagen planning to cut up to 100.000 jobs globally

#24

Weak that they’re not partnering with CATL or Panasonic to build stationary storage with excess manufacturing capacity.

> CATL

Battery technology and chemistry is export controlled by China [0], which has hurt European attempts at doing what you mentioned [1].

> Panasonic

They have chosen to concentrate on America instead [2]

[0] - https://www.mayerbrown.com/en/insights/publications/2025/10/...

[1] - https://merics.org/en/comment/chinese-restrictions-threaten-...

[2] - https://www.reuters.com/technology/panasonic-localise-its-us...

Re: Volkswagen planning to cut up to 100.000 jobs globally

#25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't see how Tesla is a serious competitor in that matchup. Their sales have been declining for two years, and Chinese OEMs are clearly on the path to complete dominance in most foreign markets. In the US market, I think Hyundai (and to a much lesser extent Kia) is probably the most interesting OEM. EV sales that aren't declining, the highest American-made percentage vehicles (relevant given recent policy changes)…

2027 is going to change this sitnificantly. Toyota is releasing a full EV highlander, Honda is releasing the 0 series, Kia has some new EVs coming out. Next year is going to be a huge EV shift. Tesla is screwed.

Didn't Honda cancel the 0 series?

Re: Volkswagen planning to cut up to 100.000 jobs globally

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A German economist explained on Insta that the main reason they are doing this is because Moody's making politics and reduced VWs rating, and VW is one of the largest credit holders in Europe and now they have been forced to act and do something about this unplanned rating change which will make loans expensive for them, without actually being a concrete automotive related issue in the first place.

> because Moody's making politics and reduced VWs rating... > without actually being a concrete automotive related issue in the first place... VW's market share in China (it's largest market) has collapsed - in 20 years it went from around 20% of all cars in China to 10% and current deliveries this year in China have fallen by 36%. This is a huge fall for a company whose Jetta was literally China's Model T. VW Group…

Wasn't the China collapse entirely predictable based on the rise of China's domestic auto industry? Why would anyone buy a Jetta when you can get a BYD?

Re: Volkswagen planning to cut up to 100.000 jobs globally

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VW is a massive casualty, but the future of automotive is currently a cutthroat war between BYD and Tesla. Everyone else is, at best, a second tier competitor. Auto industry/dealerships for trad cars is not looking good.

You're confusing Tesla for like 10 other Chinese brands. Tesla too is falling behind, particularly when it comes to price. BYD may very well be pulling ahead on battery tech and vertical integration right now. In a few years Tesla's primary moat will be political

'BYD has pulled ahead on battery tech and vertical integration right now.' - FTFY

Re: Volkswagen planning to cut up to 100.000 jobs globally

#29

Weak that they’re not partnering with CATL or Panasonic to build stationary storage with excess manufacturing capacity.

> CATL Battery technology and chemistry is export controlled by China [0], which has hurt European attempts at doing what you mentioned [1]. > Panasonic They have chosen to concentrate on America instead [2] [0] - https://www.mayerbrown.com/en/insights/publications/2025/10/... [1] - https://merics.org/en/comment/chinese-restrictions-threaten-... [2] - https://www.reuters.com/technology/panasonic-localise-its-us...

CATL is building one of the largest battery manufacturing facilities in Europe in Spain.

https://www.reuters.com/world/china/chinas-catl-breaks-groun...

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46061492 (“CATL's Spain plant will likely be one of Europe's largest LFP battery production hubs at ~50GWh of production capacity, employing ~4k workers with an investment of ~€4.1B.”)

Re: Volkswagen planning to cut up to 100.000 jobs globally

#30
For some perspective VW Group has around 680k employees per wikipedia [0].

Doubling the estimate from 50k to 100k is pretty wild, though I had read last week it was 100k on the tdi-club forum thread "What's left for Volkswagen?" [1]

[0] en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_Group [1] https://forums.tdiclub.com/index.php?threads/what%E2%80%99s-...

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