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Cyberpunk Comics, Manga and Graphic Novels

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Re: Cyberpunk Comics, Manga and Graphic Novels

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Disagree, corvids collecting bullet casings because they are shiny is heavily Shadowrun/WoD/Hellboy coded aesthetically. Regular birds gathering fiber optic cables for nests is EXTREMELY CYBERPUNK are you kidding? The image evokes so much: capitalist excess, tech waste involving computers/internet/cybernetics, war bad, environmental degredation etc... the only part about this concept that isnt heavily cyberpunk is th…

>capitalist excess ...What? It's waste from expended munitions. The Ukranian war isn't a corporate war, it's a war between sovereign nations. The drones were produced by and bought from corporations (I assume) but the result of the arms race for better measures and countermeasures would have been the same if each country had produced its own gear. >tech waste involving computers/internet/cybernetics Again, something…

> The Ukranian war isn't a corporate war

Citation needed.

Re: Cyberpunk Comics, Manga and Graphic Novels

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It's aesthetically extremely cyberpunk.

Cyberpunk is a genre of fiction.

Gibson's fiction created an aesthetic and I am pretty sure more people are now aware of the aesthetic than the fiction with gave rise to it.

Re: Cyberpunk Comics, Manga and Graphic Novels

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it’s been this way forever. the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, 00, etc… all had generic trash movies and music too. stop getting recs from algorithms and the entire world will open back up to you. just like top40 music and generic movies from back in the day, you’re getting the lowest common denominator recs. i read a book about the music industry in the 80s (it’s been a couple years and i can’t remember the name now) but…

Yes, and it's always been hot in summer! > go to your local record store, look at their wall of employee recs, or gasp talk to them and ask them. What local record store? What local cinema? What local bookshop? Congrats, if you're resistant to addictive algorithms and same-day delivery convenience, but it's ignorant to deny the new baseline.

I dunno, I've mostly lived in urban areas but I've always had record shops near to where I live. Sure, there are far less than there used to be, but the ones that made the cut appear to be on solid footing.

Re: Cyberpunk Comics, Manga and Graphic Novels

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>capitalist excess ...What? It's waste from expended munitions. The Ukranian war isn't a corporate war, it's a war between sovereign nations. The drones were produced by and bought from corporations (I assume) but the result of the arms race for better measures and countermeasures would have been the same if each country had produced its own gear. >tech waste involving computers/internet/cybernetics Again, something…

> The Ukranian war isn't a corporate war Citation needed.

Uh... The combatants are members of the armed forces of political entities, not of the private armies of corporations? Checkmate atheists?

Re: Cyberpunk Comics, Manga and Graphic Novels

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It's not really any more cyberpunk than, say, a crow collecting expended ammo casings because they're shiny. Just involving electronics technology doesn't make something cyberpunk.

Disagree, corvids collecting bullet casings because they are shiny is heavily Shadowrun/WoD/Hellboy coded aesthetically. Regular birds gathering fiber optic cables for nests is EXTREMELY CYBERPUNK are you kidding? The image evokes so much: capitalist excess, tech waste involving computers/internet/cybernetics, war bad, environmental degredation etc... the only part about this concept that isnt heavily cyberpunk is th…

the bird's children may be crippled if it gets tangled in their feet while they're still developing, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stringfoot (which is in general a common sight wherever pigeons can be found); when my flat's fibreoptic was being installed, the cable-layers made a big deal of collecting the cuttings where they spliced the cable and ensuring nothing would be in reach of any animals.

Re: Cyberpunk Comics, Manga and Graphic Novels

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For those who don't know, like me: he moved into adult manga, hentai-ish poster book work. His popularity may have corrupted him... https://appleseed.fandom.com/wiki/Shirow_Masamune

A lot of mangaka have done that sort of thing, calling something normal in the industry "infamous" and "corrupting" seems overblown when Tatsuya Matsuki and Nobuhiro Watsuki are grooming children and collecting CP and every other mangaka seems to be shitposting racism.

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Re: Cyberpunk Comics, Manga and Graphic Novels

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For those who don't know, like me: he moved into adult manga, hentai-ish poster book work. His popularity may have corrupted him... https://appleseed.fandom.com/wiki/Shirow_Masamune

A lot of mangaka have done that sort of thing, calling something normal in the industry "infamous" and "corrupting" seems overblown when Tatsuya Matsuki and Nobuhiro Watsuki are grooming children and collecting CP and every other mangaka seems to be shitposting racism.

I called it infamous not because I have a particular problem with it, but because of the way it's characterized by (Western, at least) fans. They snicker at and make jokes about the scenarios he apparently employs. (Admittedly, it doesn't sound like my thing, and I haven't looked too deeply into the material. It could very well be that I'm getting trolled.)

I agree that you can find genuinely disturbing things in the manga world and that Masamune's work is relatively benign (though some of his depictions of less-developed adult women might upset some). In general, I find the idea of commercialized erotica amusing, especially when coming from sources with more mainstream claims-to-fame. In these cases, I don't attach a connotation of moral bankruptcy or anything like that to the idea of them being "infamous", though maybe that's just me using the word wrong. I intend it more in the sense of, "Hahah, oh wow, THAT guy did THAT? That's crazy." Kind of like when we found out about Tezuka's softcore furry/snakewomen doodles.

Re: Cyberpunk Comics, Manga and Graphic Novels

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> The Ukranian war isn't a corporate war Citation needed.

Uh... The combatants are members of the armed forces of political entities, not of the private armies of corporations? Checkmate atheists?

Since the conflict began in 2014, Wagner Group PMC has been involved in many operations in Ukraine, which seems to contradict your line of reasoning.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wagner_Group_activities_in_Ukr...

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