With the AI rush, it all makes sense why suddenly all Silicon Valley became pro Trump and anti climate overnight.
I'm pretty sure all they care about is $$$. The political winds don't matter which way they are blowing.
Former NOAA employees built Climate.us to preserve climate data and resources
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Re: Former NOAA employees built Climate.us to preserve climate data and resources
#52Earlier quoted context omitted.
They’re using the broadest definition possible, where tax dollars are generally meant to provide public service. But at that point you’re just in an argument over which public services are most important to whom. So then implying that tax dollars should be used instead of donations is wrong.
> But at that point you’re just in an argument over which public services are most important to whom. Would be an interesting exercise to poll the public. We could probably break the country up into a bunch of districts, then have them vote to elect representatives to get together in some special location and negotiate how taxpayer dollars are spent. They could put something together like "a budget" and then that mon…
You are skipping a few layers here. Like those who know stuff like «crumbling asbestos air ducts in schools may be a bad idea».
Why do so many grown-ups fail civics 101 so blatantly?
Re: Former NOAA employees built Climate.us to preserve climate data and resources
#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
They’re using the broadest definition possible, where tax dollars are generally meant to provide public service. But at that point you’re just in an argument over which public services are most important to whom. So then implying that tax dollars should be used instead of donations is wrong.
> But at that point you’re just in an argument over which public services are most important to whom. Would be an interesting exercise to poll the public. We could probably break the country up into a bunch of districts, then have them vote to elect representatives to get together in some special location and negotiate how taxpayer dollars are spent. They could put something together like "a budget" and then that mon…
Would be amazing if the reps actually did what we wanted instead of what they are paid by outside entities to do. We should try that!
Re: Former NOAA employees built Climate.us to preserve climate data and resources
#54They may have, unfortunately, proved DOGE's point. The new climate.gov probably costs a fraction of the old one.
Re: Former NOAA employees built Climate.us to preserve climate data and resources
#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
> But at that point you’re just in an argument over which public services are most important to whom. Would be an interesting exercise to poll the public. We could probably break the country up into a bunch of districts, then have them vote to elect representatives to get together in some special location and negotiate how taxpayer dollars are spent. They could put something together like "a budget" and then that mon…
Would be amazing if the reps actually did what we wanted instead of what they are paid by outside entities to do. We should try that!
Agreed that money should be virtually eliminated from the system. That said, people actually tend to be pretty satisfied with their representatives. It's the other Congresspeople who suck.
Re: Former NOAA employees built Climate.us to preserve climate data and resources
#56This may be a controversial view, but I don't think we should trust the actor in charge of regulating and limiting emissions with its own supervision. The Federal Government has a plethora of agencies which regulate pollution and energy usage; how can we trust either its legislative or executive branch to ensure that their creations are effective or efficient? To that end, I hope the Trump administration's actions ca…
Private companies can pay for their own data collection and if they have a dispute with the government's analysis, they can go to court. Who exactly is going to pay for these non-governmental independent data collection/analysis efforts? How about taxpayers pay for one analysis, private parties pay for theirs, courtrooms can resolve inconsistencies on a case-by-case basis.
That would be great if the courts were actually neutral arbitrators and not captured political entities.
Re: Former NOAA employees built Climate.us to preserve climate data and resources
#57They may have, unfortunately, proved DOGE's point. The new climate.gov probably costs a fraction of the old one.
That's easy to do. No one has expectations of this one.
As soon as a government website is down, it's an outrage.
I'm sure money could've been saved. But the cost of this site really isn't the hosting, it's the data being gatherd with all the research
Re: Former NOAA employees built Climate.us to preserve climate data and resources
#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
This notion of "the government" is the wrong premise. The US government is (supposed to be, I should say) an elaborate system of checks and balances to enable self-correction mechanisms. The Trump administration has turned that into a travesty, obviously, but the system itself is explicitly set up to be split into three branches that keep each other in check, and thus supervising itself.
These checks and balances failed long before Trump started abusing the system
Yes, sadly, several decades ago, one of the parties started running on the platform of "the government is broken" and to help the electability of said platform, they kept breaking the government.
Re: Former NOAA employees built Climate.us to preserve climate data and resources
#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
> But at that point you’re just in an argument over which public services are most important to whom. Would be an interesting exercise to poll the public. We could probably break the country up into a bunch of districts, then have them vote to elect representatives to get together in some special location and negotiate how taxpayer dollars are spent. They could put something together like "a budget" and then that mon…
Would be amazing if the reps actually did what we wanted instead of what they are paid by outside entities to do. We should try that!
What do you mean by outside entities? Foreign governments?
Re: Former NOAA employees built Climate.us to preserve climate data and resources
#60They may have, unfortunately, proved DOGE's point. The new climate.gov probably costs a fraction of the old one.
Simply hosting the website wasn't costing that much