Whisper large v3 turbo works fine locally on recent iphones, weird to keep it out of the comparison
Apple's new SpeechAnalyzer API, benchmarked against Whisper and its predecessor
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Re: Apple's new SpeechAnalyzer API, benchmarked against Whisper and its predecessor
#142Earlier quoted context omitted.
For multilingual and noisy audio the best right now is MOSS-Transcribe-Diarize which was released just a few days ago Superwhisper does a lot more than just provide a whisper/parakeet UI so I’m not sure Apple will destroy them so easily
16GB! (edit: this is wrong, I was looking at TTS, the transcribe model is 1.7GB). Compared to Parakeet 2.3GB (but no diarization). Also doesn't seem to be tailored to Apple hardware (i.e. no MLX or ANE variant/implementation)
I am running the MLX fork https://huggingface.co/vanch007/mlx-MOSS-Transcribe-Diarize
Generally labs don't release MLX or ANE versions and we must rely on finding someone who's converted it
Parakeet is not multilingual so not directly comparable
Where do you see 16GB? MOSS is smaller than Parakeet at 1.82GB
Re: Apple's new SpeechAnalyzer API, benchmarked against Whisper and its predecessor
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Reminds me of the time my neighbours must have wondered if I was having some kind of a breakdown when trying out really basic MacOS voice recognition back in the early 2000s. There was a keyboard shortcut and you could say something like "phone number for firstname lastname" and it would theoretically show you that phone number. Thing is it didn't seem to like a British accent, so I spent a good hour trying out diffe…
Interesting - I don’t think I’ve ever seen anyone from the UK refer to talking in a “British accent” before since we are normally aware of the wild regional variations.
Fair point! I think it's a tic from being English and having lived in Scotland for quite a while so I autocorrect "English" to "British", but I've over-corrected here. (Also perhaps something to do with "British English").
Re: Apple's new SpeechAnalyzer API, benchmarked against Whisper and its predecessor
#144Earlier quoted context omitted.
For multilingual and noisy audio the best right now is MOSS-Transcribe-Diarize which was released just a few days ago Superwhisper does a lot more than just provide a whisper/parakeet UI so I’m not sure Apple will destroy them so easily
Interesting! And what would you say are MTD top competitors?
I'm only dealing with Japanese audio so for me it's Anime-Whisper, a Japanese-specific fine-tuning of Qwen3 ASR, and Apple SpeechTranscriber.
Re: Apple's new SpeechAnalyzer API, benchmarked against Whisper and its predecessor
#145Excited to get next years diarization models - ArgMax is pretty incredible but cost prohibitive (when compared to 0 price from iOS)
Re: Apple's new SpeechAnalyzer API, benchmarked against Whisper and its predecessor
#146Whisper is the wrong model to benchmark against, or rather, there are better models that are state of the art now like Nemotron and Parakeet both by Nvidia, as well as Mistral's Voxtral and Cohere Transcribe. However, what's funny is, RIP to a lot of the paid apps that simply wrap Whisper, I'm sure Apple will make a native GUI such as a recorder app for macOS that obviates the need for these wrappers, which everyone…
I am curious, what are the use cases people are using voice transcription for?
Re: Apple's new SpeechAnalyzer API, benchmarked against Whisper and its predecessor
#147Whisper is the wrong model to benchmark against, or rather, there are better models that are state of the art now like Nemotron and Parakeet both by Nvidia, as well as Mistral's Voxtral and Cohere Transcribe. However, what's funny is, RIP to a lot of the paid apps that simply wrap Whisper, I'm sure Apple will make a native GUI such as a recorder app for macOS that obviates the need for these wrappers, which everyone…
I am curious, what are the use cases people are using voice transcription for?
I find voice memos really annoying, so I’ve been dropping them into a Whisper frontend for a while. Something built into the OS would be nicer though.
Re: Apple's new SpeechAnalyzer API, benchmarked against Whisper and its predecessor
#148Earlier quoted context omitted.
16GB! (edit: this is wrong, I was looking at TTS, the transcribe model is 1.7GB). Compared to Parakeet 2.3GB (but no diarization). Also doesn't seem to be tailored to Apple hardware (i.e. no MLX or ANE variant/implementation)
I am running the MLX fork https://huggingface.co/vanch007/mlx-MOSS-Transcribe-Diarize Generally labs don't release MLX or ANE versions and we must rely on finding someone who's converted it Parakeet is not multilingual so not directly comparable Where do you see 16GB? MOSS is smaller than Parakeet at 1.82GB
Thanks, I didn't see vanch007 version at first (only ~30 downloads), I usually look at mlx-community. For the size I was looking at the wrong model (TTS not transcribe-diarize), thanks for the corrections.
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As an Australian, Apples voice models have always sucked. I've tried using stt (again) more recently and its improved, but i'm so tired of having to Americanize my voice to get it to figure out what the hell i'm saying.
It also struggles with my NYC-area accent, which is only medium thick.
The Two Yoots problem. Do you use d's in place of t's such as dees/dems/dose/dere? I have a heavy queens accent so you'll hear me say things like "deres tree uh dem ova dere."
Re: Apple's new SpeechAnalyzer API, benchmarked against Whisper and its predecessor
#150Obligatory mention of Handy which is open-source and cross-platform:
https://github.com/cjpais/Handy
It's great for me when configured to use Parakeet v3.