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Claude Code sends 33k tokens before reading the prompt; OpenCode sends 7k

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Re: Claude Code sends 33k tokens before reading the prompt; OpenCode sends 7k

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How do I get it to spend fable tokens on “curiosity” then switch to cheaper models? Preferably based on its own judgment of what model is truly needed. Using VS code if it matters.

Just ask it to. If you want, you can also give it pointers to how to read .claude jsonl/metadata so it keeps track of usage and self-adjusts. It's not perfect, but it's pretty dang good if you just say 'This project is allotted X% of my 5h limit'.

I never thought of that. Thanks!

Re: Claude Code sends 33k tokens before reading the prompt; OpenCode sends 7k

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I pretty much giving up on Claude. It's Extremely slow, especially fast few days. Computer use takes so long to do anything that sessions expire. I switched to Codex and it's a different story. I'm not saying that Anthropic is not going to fix their problems, but for me as a user that depends for the service to work, it's not acceptable. So, we switch back and forth between a few LLM's but Claude and Codex are the leaders and I can't afford using anything else if I know I can get better quality results. The cost is important but not as much as the quality of the solution. You might save a few bucks on a cheeper model but you will have to prompt it many times and time is more important to me, as well as the feeling that I'm getting the best result on the first try.

Re: Claude Code sends 33k tokens before reading the prompt; OpenCode sends 7k

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Thanks, I'm looking forward to this! I wonder if a lot of the 33k is context, like from recent conversations.

We've updated the post now!

Thank you!

Re: Claude Code sends 33k tokens before reading the prompt; OpenCode sends 7k

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What settings have you tried since it "became more opaque"? They've got a lot more settings now.

CC went from sane defaults in late 2025 to feature scope creep early 2026. So more features might be good, but sounds like an ick for me. But I have zero prestige, I might switch back.

Are you familiar with "the tyranny of the marginal user"? They have to add more features right now.

Re: Claude Code sends 33k tokens before reading the prompt; OpenCode sends 7k

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Agreed that the node cesspool is a risk. That said, what batteries does Pi have that you don’t want?

Bloated TUI library, unified multi-provider LLM layer, bloated RPC and SDK modes, the entire plugin framework, the list goes on and on. For reference, pi-coding-agent, by itself (not including dependencies, tests, or pi-ai, pi-tui, pi-agent-core, etc), is ~41,653 SLOC taking up ~1658.9 KiB across 163 files. My agent, excluding dependencies (all go stdlib) and tests, is 3 files, 946 SLOC, taking up 36.3 KiB, and inclu…

Sure, if your fundamental issue is “bloat,” you can always write a less general-purpose system that is smaller. No doubt about that.

Re: Claude Code sends 33k tokens before reading the prompt; OpenCode sends 7k

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Would be interesting if you could post more details about what you captured.

Claude code seems to have a pretty robust harness and memory. It's a time saver to not include project context in our prompt, since Claude manages claude.md but I haven't used OpenCode to compare.

Re: Claude Code sends 33k tokens before reading the prompt; OpenCode sends 7k

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PTSD sucks on its own. Trying to blame other people for its symptoms is a deflection. It would be like someone with ADHD blaming his inability to concentrate on everyone else in the room making noise or moving around. People with OCD tried this, acting like it's a Monopoly property that you have to pay rent for if you land on it / say its name. If anything, it's a net positive people are talking about mental health a…

I agree with what you say? I think you're reading something into my writing that I didn't mean to imply. A headache is not a migraine is not cluster headache is not multiple sclerosis. We have vocabulary so we can express ourselves in an attempt to communicate. I am inviting people to reconsider their use of language when it comes to severe challenges such as PTSD. We are here to exchange opinions after all. If you f…

I agree with you that it's a low effort, repetitive drone when people say "that cable job irritates my OCD" or "I still have PTSD from dealing with that annoying person". I don't like hearing it because it makes me think that person is a parrot that repeats common phrases instead of developing their own voice. So at least we agree partially.

I disagree that it's insensitive to those or have the illness. If it hurts you when people use PTSD as a literary special effect, I invite you to articulate why exactly it makes you feel (however it makes you feel - I don't want to put words in your mouth). I get the sense that some people take offense the same way a religious fundamentalist doesn't want to hear their Prophet or Messiah used disrespectfully. The source of the anger is built on faith and dogma.

Re: Claude Code sends 33k tokens before reading the prompt; OpenCode sends 7k

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They changed it with the release on July 1 Explore now inherits the model, it isn't always haiku. https://code.claude.com/docs/en/changelog#2-1-198 > The built-in Explore agent now inherits the main session’s model (capped at opus) instead of running on haiku

Urgh, thanks for the heads up. I guess I need to be explicit about my choice of model now.

Yeah, I was surprised. I had Claude make a skill to extract the explore agent from Claude Code, but set the model back to haiku. Here it is if it's helpful:

https://gist.github.com/joshcartme/dd71df7b4c51c356760b28d7f...

Re: Claude Code sends 33k tokens before reading the prompt; OpenCode sends 7k

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What really burns tokens is sub agents. I once gave Claude Code a pretty big task, and it immediately launched 7 sub agents which burned through my budget before even one of them was finished. Tried again 5 hours later: same result. If I let the main agent do the same task sequentially, it was no problem at all. I don't know if it's really just communication and orchestration that makes sub agents so inefficient, or…

i have globally disabled subagents for claude. otherwise one prompt ended my Pro account

Re: Claude Code sends 33k tokens before reading the prompt; OpenCode sends 7k

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Please don't act as the hyperbole police. People exaggerate all the time (I'm starving, etc). It's normal, and you are being a jerk to call them out.

I am asking them to reconsider and reflect on what that kind of language use does. You're the one reading it as "calling them out". How else are we supposed to learn from each other, voice our opinions, point out our mistakes to each other? For me, this is communication. And currently 8 upvotes seem to agree with me and my request. Feel free to ignore it, or consider it, for your own use of language. But, sorry, to m…

Have you ever said "I'm starving"? Do you think that undermines the experience of people actually starving in war or famine?
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