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Ask HN: My 13 year-old cousin hacked into his school's system. What advice would you give?

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Re: Ask HN: My 13 year-old cousin hacked into his school's system. What advice would you give?

#71
Your approach depends on a lot of things really.

I often thing, personallly, that whilst reading books/articles is good it doesn't help instill a lot into a young hacker.

First I would buy him Kevin Mitnicks books. I recommend them to every new hacker because: a) some of the stories are unbelievably inspiring! b) it's all real life stuff c) he manages to tell the stories of these great hacks without glamourising the illegality. It does a lot to prove hacking can be great fun within legal bounds.

The next thing I would do is encourage him to get involved with a programming community. Get him to learn a language and start ot play with it. :)

in terms of cracking (as opposed to hacking) sometimes pushing the boundaries happens (either for personal reasons or professional). I would teach your cousin that breaking the law is wrong. Breaking into the schools system is (speaking technically) as bad as breaking into a microsoft server. But the impact of the 2 activities (assuming it was simply to look both times) is very different. Try to show him that experimenting with something like the school system is fairly harmless but still wrong and he should take it no further unless he has permission :) (offer the school a pen test :D)

Finally a lot of people are saying "teach him not to get caught" (essentially). This is a most important lesson. I crack for a living (White Hat I hasten to add) and one of the things that makes me good at that is paying attention to covering my actions :)

Re: Ask HN: My 13 year-old cousin hacked into his school's system. What advice would you give?

#72
post #50

Don't get caught.

Seconded. I cannot imagine any good will come of his getting caught. He should keep his head down -- not tell ANYONE about what he did, even his friends -- and hope no one notices. Whether he gets caught or not, this strikes me as a good lesson to learn before he's 18.

> not tell ANYONE about what he did, even his friends

Indeed -- I suspect the proportion of criminals who were caught because they bragged to their friends is quite high.

Re: Ask HN: My 13 year-old cousin hacked into his school's system. What advice would you give?

#73
I'd tell him to set himself up for success. His activity was innocent this time but by creating situations where he has the opportunity to do so not-so-innocent things, he'll give in to the temptation someday. It's like working at McDonalds or KFC: there is a big chance that you'll gain 2-3 lbs ever month you work there because sooner or later, you'll eat there. He shouldn't put himself into such situations where he can screw up. Bad decisions snow-ball.

Re: Ask HN: My 13 year-old cousin hacked into his school's system. What advice would you give?

#74
World is full of hackers. Some hackers are good...some are bad. He needs to choice his site in this thing. If he is "good" hacker, i suggest continue, if he is "bad" hacker, he can hack into government networks without getting caught. But if he gets caught, he goes to jail for a long time, maybe less than 10 years.
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