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Re: Cyberpunk Comics, Manga and Graphic Novels

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Post by fluoridation »

cgannett wrote: post #115
fluoridation wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not really any more cyberpunk than, say, a crow collecting expended ammo casings because they're shiny. Just involving electronics technology doesn't make something cyberpunk.

Disagree, corvids collecting bullet casings because they are shiny is heavily Shadowrun/WoD/Hellboy coded aesthetically. Regular birds gathering fiber optic cables for nests is EXTREMELY CYBERPUNK are you kidding? The image evokes so much: capitalist excess, tech waste involving computers/internet/cybernetics, war bad, environmental degredation etc... the only part about this concept that isnt heavily cyberpunk is th…

>capitalist excess

...What? It's waste from expended munitions. The Ukranian war isn't a corporate war, it's a war between sovereign nations. The drones were produced by and bought from corporations (I assume) but the result of the arms race for better measures and countermeasures would have been the same if each country had produced its own gear.

>tech waste involving computers/internet/cybernetics

Again, something doesn't become cyberpunk just because it involves computers or electronics.

>war bad

I don't think cyberpunk is anti-war as a central feature. It's certainly compatible with that message, but you could write a cyberpunk story that is pro-war, as long that war is to counter the power of corporations.

>environmental degredation etc.

All in all, discarded fibers are more of a nuisance to people than to the environment, I think.

Re: Cyberpunk Comics, Manga and Graphic Novels

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Post by loudmax »

fooqux wrote: post #86
pennomi wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It feels like the last remaining promise of cyberpunk is widespread cybernetic augmentation. The rest of the genre is not really fiction anymore.

I got a flier in the mail last week, offering a subscription service for ambulance rides. It was the most cyberpunk thing I'd seen personally.

Incidentally, here's a recent article about how the economics of ambulances are broken in the US: https://davidoks.blog/p/why-american-ambulance-rides-are

If municipal emergency services in yout area don't cover ambulance rides, that subscription service might not be a bad idea.

Re: Cyberpunk Comics, Manga and Graphic Novels

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Post by tayo42 »

jijijijij wrote: post #101
toofy wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

it’s been this way forever. the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, 00, etc… all had generic trash movies and music too. stop getting recs from algorithms and the entire world will open back up to you. just like top40 music and generic movies from back in the day, you’re getting the lowest common denominator recs. i read a book about the music industry in the 80s (it’s been a couple years and i can’t remember the name now) but…

Yes, and it's always been hot in summer! > go to your local record store, look at their wall of employee recs, or gasp talk to them and ask them. What local record store? What local cinema? What local bookshop? Congrats, if you're resistant to addictive algorithms and same-day delivery convenience, but it's ignorant to deny the new baseline.

Im in a US suburb and have a few places to buy records, books and to go to a movie. I don't think it's so unusual

Re: Cyberpunk Comics, Manga and Graphic Novels

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Post by roughly »

krapp wrote: post #69
roughly wrote: post #19

Worth noting that Cyberpunk as a genre was at least intended to be a dystopia.

The thing about dystopia is that it's never a dystopia for everyone.

One of the better moral philosophic suggestions I’ve heard: “imagine you don’t know who you will be in the world you are trying to create.”

Re: Cyberpunk Comics, Manga and Graphic Novels

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Post by Apocryphon »

jijijijij wrote: post #101
toofy wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

it’s been this way forever. the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, 00, etc… all had generic trash movies and music too. stop getting recs from algorithms and the entire world will open back up to you. just like top40 music and generic movies from back in the day, you’re getting the lowest common denominator recs. i read a book about the music industry in the 80s (it’s been a couple years and i can’t remember the name now) but…

Yes, and it's always been hot in summer! > go to your local record store, look at their wall of employee recs, or gasp talk to them and ask them. What local record store? What local cinema? What local bookshop? Congrats, if you're resistant to addictive algorithms and same-day delivery convenience, but it's ignorant to deny the new baseline.

Indie bookshops have had a revival in the past decade, it's big box book retailers who are in trouble.

https://apnews.com/article/independent-bookstores-expanding-...

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2026/apr/19/independent...

Re: Cyberpunk Comics, Manga and Graphic Novels

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Post by GuinansEyebrows »

jijijijij wrote: post #101
toofy wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

it’s been this way forever. the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, 00, etc… all had generic trash movies and music too. stop getting recs from algorithms and the entire world will open back up to you. just like top40 music and generic movies from back in the day, you’re getting the lowest common denominator recs. i read a book about the music industry in the 80s (it’s been a couple years and i can’t remember the name now) but…

Yes, and it's always been hot in summer! > go to your local record store, look at their wall of employee recs, or gasp talk to them and ask them. What local record store? What local cinema? What local bookshop? Congrats, if you're resistant to addictive algorithms and same-day delivery convenience, but it's ignorant to deny the new baseline.

i think (safe guess) a plurality of hn users live in cities with most or all of these types of businesses. unless you're somewhere very rural, exurban or suburban, you owe it to yourself to at least try to find these places (and even if you are, you might be surprised at what's nearby).

Re: Cyberpunk Comics, Manga and Graphic Novels

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Post by throw4847285 »

leoc wrote: post #33

No Judge Dredd (which dates back to 1977) or anything else from 2000 AD ?

I did a pandemic project of reading Dredd from the start for as long as I could. I made it through about 25 case files volumes, which took me from 1977 to the late 90s (I think).

Is Judge Dredd cyberpunk? I don't care. It's an incredible run of comics, that touches on many of the same themes as cyberpunk.

There are many people involved in Dredd over the years, but I do think John Wagner has had the rare opportunity among work for hire creators to shepherd a fictional universe over decades of real and in universe time.

Re: Cyberpunk Comics, Manga and Graphic Novels

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Post by mandolingual »

fluoridation wrote: post #121
cgannett wrote: post #115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Disagree, corvids collecting bullet casings because they are shiny is heavily Shadowrun/WoD/Hellboy coded aesthetically. Regular birds gathering fiber optic cables for nests is EXTREMELY CYBERPUNK are you kidding? The image evokes so much: capitalist excess, tech waste involving computers/internet/cybernetics, war bad, environmental degredation etc... the only part about this concept that isnt heavily cyberpunk is th…

>capitalist excess ...What? It's waste from expended munitions. The Ukranian war isn't a corporate war, it's a war between sovereign nations. The drones were produced by and bought from corporations (I assume) but the result of the arms race for better measures and countermeasures would have been the same if each country had produced its own gear. >tech waste involving computers/internet/cybernetics Again, something…

It's aesthetically extremely cyberpunk.

Re: Cyberpunk Comics, Manga and Graphic Novels

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Post by fluoridation »

mandolingual wrote: post #129
fluoridation wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>capitalist excess ...What? It's waste from expended munitions. The Ukranian war isn't a corporate war, it's a war between sovereign nations. The drones were produced by and bought from corporations (I assume) but the result of the arms race for better measures and countermeasures would have been the same if each country had produced its own gear. >tech waste involving computers/internet/cybernetics Again, something…

It's aesthetically extremely cyberpunk.

Cyberpunk is a genre of fiction.
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