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Zig Creator Calls Spade a Spade, Anthropic Blows Smoke

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Re: Zig Creator Calls Spade a Spade, Anthropic Blows Smoke

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Post by Havoc »

999900000999 wrote: post #560
Havoc wrote: post #518

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> can I spend a few thousand in Fable tokens and ship DinnerRoll( Bun in D). Probably. Likely would work with sub fable class model too. > Is that enough to raise a VC round? Doubtful. Think this move only works for someone with an existing product and following

> Doubtful. Think this move only works for someone with an existing product and following So what you’re saying is actually build it, get it in the hands of end users and then find co-founder who does nothing but call his VC friends. Maybe this co founder will be merciful enough to let me keep a 5% stake. Although in all seriousness, given Oven sold for ( Google AI estimate) hundred of millions that would still be mo…

> get it in the hands of end users

That’s the tricky part. Bun has a pretty big following. If you can replicate that at similar scale then yeah maybe there is a vc cheque for you in the future

Re: Zig Creator Calls Spade a Spade, Anthropic Blows Smoke

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Post by anthonypasq »

jraph wrote: post #92
raincole wrote: post #16

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Yeah, exactly. It's weird that Zig even responded to that. Imagining that your studio switched from Unity to Unreal and Unity proceeded to release a hit piece attacking your codebase quality and workplace environment.

But that hit piece would be an answer to the (multi-billion dollar) studio saying how much better the result is after the rewrite to Unreal, except it's not because Unreal is better (which it could be btw, or not, or more probably it depends on the use case), it's because the studio worked hard to make it look better, which they could have done without the rewrite. Anthropic does this to sell LLM rewrites and make th…

> But that hit piece would be an answer to the (multi-billion dollar) studio saying how much better the result is after the rewrite to Unreal

this in fact happens all the time and engine creators dont come out with bitter blog posts about it

Re: Zig Creator Calls Spade a Spade, Anthropic Blows Smoke

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Post by tomnipotent »

mi_lk wrote: post #252
threatofrain wrote: post #241

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Is it true that Jarred and the Bun team at large engaged in "outright fabrication" in professional business discussions? What do you think of that statement made by Andrew? It was serious enough that Jarred showed up to post receipts with very little commentary, so as not to distract from the receipts. The charge of professional dishonesty is very strong.

Of course you'll buy that because "receipts" were only half the story and posting little commentary gives him an edge. See: https://hachyderm.io/@kristoff/116898483283387067

There's literally nothing in that post of substance, other than the fact the Zig community is obsessed with trying to "prove him wrong" or some other such nonsense. Jarred's responses have been composed and civil, while the Zig team has been petty and vindictive.

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Post by sph »

groundzeros2015 wrote: post #434
deaton wrote: post #359

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I think you're right, and I think this principle of friction-is-good-actually applies to a lot more domains than just software, but whether the world will ever accept that is a different question.

I know of some financial analysts who don’t like to pull data in from reports automatically. They prefer to read each row and copy it into their spreadsheet because they actually contemplate what the number means.

Same with taking notes by hand compared to writing on a keyboard, and the effect it has on memory retention is well researched.

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Post by itsthetruth22 »

Xirdus wrote: post #557
metoobruh wrote: post #525

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I like my datacenters like I like my railway infrastructure - covered in enough protective layer of rust that it will never suffer structural damage even when running for years under extremely heavy load.

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Post by sph »

jgraham wrote: post #428
27183 wrote: post #259

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Writing is thinking. If you don't spend time writing, then you didn't spend time thinking. LLMs don't think. Consequently, if you outsourced your writing to an LLM the resulting artifact was born of a thoughtless process. Instead of engaging your readers in your thought process you're tricking them with a puzzle. Readers will try to understand what you're thinking about (at least the non-passive ones will). This acti…

It's not that writing _is_ thinking, but (effective) writing _requires_ thinking. It forces you to take a collection of lose and incoherent thoughts and reify them into an argument that can hold its own weight.

The art of essay writing allows an author to ascertain how well they understand a topic and work out the flaws just by trying to put it into words. Paul Graham speaks about this.

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Post by anthonypasq »

moomoo11 wrote: post #463
cropcirclbureau wrote: post #55

I stand with Andrew. As someone who's been following Sumner's work closely for years, Kelley's accusations are very much true even if unkind. While the results are useful and cool, it a wankfluencer op from start to finish. I dare you to refute thus. And I say all this as someone who does agentic development 8hrs a day and someone who always pestered my team to opt for Rust and Deno instead of Node. Call a spade a sp…

i appreciate people saying it like it is. like linus lol i hate marketing pr speak when it comes to technical things. save that for the non technical customers

what exactly is technical about personal attacks?

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Post by itsthetruth22 »

tomnipotent wrote: post #590
metoobruh wrote: post #550

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> perpetually offended snowflakes This attitude is so precious to me - "Sorry guys, you can't criticize my criticism." > What Bun did here is basically a sabotage of Zig's reputation If Zig's reputation was so fragile that Bun migrating to Rust caused this kerfuffle, then Bun isn't the issue.

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Post by Xirdus »

itsthetruth22 wrote: post #605
Xirdus wrote: post #557

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I like my datacenters like I like my railway infrastructure - covered in enough protective layer of rust that it will never suffer structural damage even when running for years under extremely heavy load.

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Why do you recommend the living definition of not having any protections whatsoever for protection?

Re: Zig Creator Calls Spade a Spade, Anthropic Blows Smoke

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Post by itsthetruth22 »

maleldil wrote: post #588
metoobruh wrote: post #550

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> ONE angry blog It's not the first. He recently called GitHub employees "monkeys". > What Bun did here is basically a sabotage of Zig's reputation How?

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