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A graph that should be front-page news

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Re: A graph that should be front-page news

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The economic system itself is incompatible with the physical reality of a finite planet. The ones steering society choose to crash and ruin everything rather than to jeopardize their positions in power. That obvious failure in morals and ethics, basic principles of adult responsibility really, is made possible by a lack of rational reflection in the populace. Objective truth has to take precedence over subjective des…

I'd push back.on blaming the populace for this: the widespread belief in general polls is that the climate situation is dire and that drastic measures need to be taken. However, the constraints that most people have to contend with do not allow them to be more radical in their calls for change. You saw it in the Gilets Jaunes/Yellow Vests uprising in France, that was motivated not by the passion for IC engines but by…

You're right about the general sentiment acknowledging the seriousness only when you look at the center and left of society. The majority in the US however supports or tolerates the actual political decisions made, contradicting that level of importance.

When you paint people as being "disallowed" from more radical actions, the same question of true importance arises? The current trajectory leads to Armageddon, plain and simple.

My point here thus is about the proper scale on which people place the topic.

It's not a "lifestyle choice" to doom humanity's children to ruin.

Placing responsibility with the irresponsible is a cop-out.

Re: A graph that should be front-page news

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War is one of the biggest emitter of co2 though.

Ok then we should focus on eco-friendly ways to stop each other from pumping fossils.

Like state-sponsored sabotage? Like whoever blew up the Nordstream pipeline?

Re: A graph that should be front-page news

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In a world where we have people like Trump, Musk, Thiel, et al, with extreme power and resources, why would we hope for something like climate change to be addressed? What can scientists do? Even if they are 100% right and can prove it, they have no power to do anything. Governments of the top countries are puppets of the US, so there’s not much to do. Other governments are dealing with more mundane problems. And the…

Note that anyone who suggested actions that would be both implementable by an individual and extremely effective would be rapidly banned from HN.

We could build out private solar farms though.

Re: A graph that should be front-page news

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I make this prediction: In 5 years, we will have learned that the red line was in error, and the temperatures will be in the bottom half of the graph. I know this because every prediction of climate doom turned out to be false. Entire nations were going to disappear under rising sea levels. It has not happened. I'm not saying no land sinks, but sea levels are not rising rapidly enough to prevent Al Gore (author of "A…

Glacier park had 150 glaciers in the mid 1800s. Today it has 26. No crisis to see: we still have nearly 20% of what we once had /s

Re: A graph that should be front-page news

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Lots of AI tells in this article. Ironic? > It's not a forecast. It's not a simulation of what might happen decades from now. These are...

The site is apparently one of those AI generated bait traps. The link to the original article is in the (current) top comment.

Re: A graph that should be front-page news

#126

Lots of AI tells in this article. Ironic? > It's not a forecast. It's not a simulation of what might happen decades from now. These are...

A lot of people mistake basic literacy for AI. Don't forget that LLMs are trained on human texts and replicate patterns within them.

Re: A graph that should be front-page news

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Individual action is not the solution

What is the collective if not a collection of individuals?

A collection of individuals, some of whose actions have a billion times more impact than others, and those powerful individuals hate human civilization.

Re: A graph that should be front-page news

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I couldn’t help but notice that there was an equally cold spike at the bottom.

Can you please define "equal"? (and exactly which pic you're referring to?)

-3.5 sigma in the middle of the year in the only graph the article has.

Re: A graph that should be front-page news

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That article is vastly superior and is the one that should be being discussed, not this.

> Turn the volume on the typical El Niño impacts up to eleven, then watch the collective infrastructure of modern industrial civilization crumble. Watch as flooding storms wash away roads and cities. Watch as trailing storms create new inland lakes, swamping farmland. Watch as fires raze forests and grasslands. Watch as heatwaves turn temperate regions into unsurvivable hellscapes. Watch as crops fail and dams burst.…

What about it reads to you as low quality? The intention seems to be to convey alarm through description of catastrophe, which was effective for me.
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