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Weightlifting beats running for blood sugar control, researchers find (2025)

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"In this model, mice lived in specially designed cages where food was accessed through a hinged, weighted lid. To eat, the mice had to lift the lid while wearing a small shoulder collar, causing a squat-like movement that engaged the muscle contractions people use during resistance exercise. The load was gradually increased over several days, mimicking progressive strength training." So the study doesn't really show…

This is great news if you're a mouse with diabetes.

But do you know why mice is often used instead of says, cat?

Re: Weightlifting beats running for blood sugar control, researchers find (2025)

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Does the average "scientist" even care about quality these days or is it all just whatever headline makes their funders happy?

The editor nearly always chooses the title when an article is published.

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Re: Weightlifting beats running for blood sugar control, researchers find (2025)

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I find it fascinating that people who exercise would want to skip the weights. Strength training makes everything else so much easier, even "doing nothing" (sleep, metabolism, etc.)!

I don’t hate weight lifting, but riding my bike is just glorious and fun and has a point (I go to the grocery store and buy groceries with my e-bike, then on multi hour rides up and down hills) so it’s something I actually want to do. Lifting weights feels good when I’m there but it’s a habit I have to build to go somewhere and do a thing. It’s just harder to integrate because it’s not literally just “go outside and…

You can do calisthenics approximately anywhere, no need to go places.

Re: Weightlifting beats running for blood sugar control, researchers find (2025)

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"In this model, mice lived in specially designed cages where food was accessed through a hinged, weighted lid. To eat, the mice had to lift the lid while wearing a small shoulder collar, causing a squat-like movement that engaged the muscle contractions people use during resistance exercise. The load was gradually increased over several days, mimicking progressive strength training." So the study doesn't really show…

Does the average "scientist" even care about quality these days or is it all just whatever headline makes their funders happy?

Selection bias. The average scientist doesn’t write oversimplified popsci articles that go viral.

Re: Weightlifting beats running for blood sugar control, researchers find (2025)

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I used to do weightlifting, but it's hard to keep up daily discipline with potential injury risk. Rest days are mandatory and this is the #1 killer of compliance over time (for me). Rowing is my go-to now. It is low impact so I can do it every day without any exceptions. I've been able to hold onto this discipline for 2 years now. The advantage of rowing is that there isn't really a limit to how much it can suck. You…

Rest days are not mandatory, that’s a matter of programming. /r/gzcl was started by a guy who has done more than 1,000 training days in a row. Orthodox weightlifting has athletic/competitive roots, which invites a certain level of injury, but modern kinesiology and joint-centric lifting create a very different injury profile. Work with a PT for detailed specifics, but 7 days a week lifting programs for seniors are po…

This is mostly scientistic nonsense "modern kinesiology and joint-centric lifting create a very different injury profile."

The entire field of lifting is almost entirely scientism and marketing.

The biggest crock of shit is that there is this "proper form" and that injury is from deviation from this "proper form".

There is inherent, non-reducible injury risk in both running and lifting that both sides like to down play.

Re: Weightlifting beats running for blood sugar control, researchers find (2025)

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Running is quite meditative when you get in to it (at least for me when outside - indoor running on treadmills is soul destroying though I agree). You don't have to go fast or far, but after 10-15-20 mins I find my mind gets into a fairly calm state, even if my legs and lungs are burning. We - as a species - are engineered and built to run. I think there is a lot to be said for it. If anyone is reading this and consi…

10km/h is very fast for a beginner and likely unsustainable for more than a couple of minutes, I would expect most people to be starting around 5-6km/h if they’re a healthy weight. I think the best piece of advice is START SLOW. way slower than you think. And run for way shorter than you think. Even if your lungs and muscles are fine, if you haven’t ran for a while then your tendons certainly aren’t. You won’t know u…

Listen to this advice. I took off the winter and then just jumped back into running in the spring like nothing happened and it has not been fun. Should have started way slower and with much shorter distances. I won't races longer than 8K this year due to niggling injuries.

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If you haven’t ran before and are carrying some extra weight then yeah it’s probably a good place to start for your first couple of short runs. Even running slowly puts additional stress on your achilles so it’s a bit of a wake up call to your body. Running slowly for 10 minutes a few times when you’re just getting started isn’t going to hurt anyone and if everything checks out then you can start to up the pace.

> Running slowly for 10 minutes a few times ... isn't going to hurt anybody. Heh, don't get old or be born with the wrong genes. I have to start at no more than about 2min at a time being middle aged now. Some of us are born weaker and more fragile. Aging only makes this worse. Strength training can help, though I've accumulated enough stubborn injuries now that I'm just thankful I can do anything.

Yes exactly! Good for you for keeping at it.

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Running is harder work than walking. Try it!

I want to try it but how am I supposed to run at the same speed as I walk? I mean physically, what am I supposed to do to run at 5-6km/h? Should I exaggerate and slow down my run stance? Like I'm fake running? Is that more demanding than walking and a good intro to running vs just running/jogging?

This is called "jogging" not "running" and it is perfectly fine to do it a pace less than a medium-brisk walk.

Re: Weightlifting beats running for blood sugar control, researchers find (2025)

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Which CGM did you get? Don't they require a prescription?

No prescription is required, but as the other comments say, you’re unlikely to learn anything significant. Blood sugar in non-diabetics is boring, rarely moving in any significant way. One impact could be dispelling misconceptions if you have them. Another could be discovering pre-diabetes.

> you’re unlikely to learn anything significant

This is simply not true and assumes all nondiabetics are current with their checkups and bloodwork. A third of all people are prediabetic and most of them don't know it. That's the opposite of unlikely.

Most start out nondiabetic (except type 1) and we live in a world with constant and significant cultural pressure guiding choices towards diabetes. Keeping an eye on it will catch when a nondiabetic is straying too far.

Glucose will still spike in nondiabetics when they mindlessly overindulge on carbs and can drop to borderline hypoglycemia when fasting for too long and/or overexerted. Tons of people take risks experimenting with "intermittent fasting" or other questionable diet choices. There are tons of people who incorrectly assume it's "just their mental health" and that there is no biological basis for feeling off until they have their A1C confirmed.

Even A1C can be misleading if there are nutritional deficiencies or the patient is type 1. You do not want to find out you're type 1 by surprise (passing out on a hot day in a traffic jam or something).

Re: Weightlifting beats running for blood sugar control, researchers find (2025)

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Weightlifing is the only exercise that I've ever managed to make a habit. I do powerlifting 3x/week. I've tried running, swimming, cycling, etc. and hated all of it.

Running is quite meditative when you get in to it (at least for me when outside - indoor running on treadmills is soul destroying though I agree). You don't have to go fast or far, but after 10-15-20 mins I find my mind gets into a fairly calm state, even if my legs and lungs are burning. We - as a species - are engineered and built to run. I think there is a lot to be said for it. If anyone is reading this and consi…

I guess it also depends on the location. I loved running in Thailand, past the flowers and smiling people. I ran 2-3 times in Germany, past the broken bottles and narco bums crawling in the bushes, and decided to stick to the weightlifting.
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