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A graph that should be front-page news

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Re: A graph that should be front-page news

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There are many thing people could do, eat less meat, smaller homes, electric cars, green energy, no flights etc. but the vast majority of people does exactly nothing.

Chinese and Indian CO2 emissions dwarf anything you mentioned. You can stop eating meat altogether and move to a small doghouse, it won’t make any global impact at all.

This line of "hurrr but they are doing it too so why should I stop!" reasoning constitutes a logical fallacy that a motivated 9 year old is probably already able to reason themselves out of

Re: A graph that should be front-page news

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post #19

This blog post is pure slop, stealing from this one: https://climatecasino.substack.com/p/some-monsters-are-real the submission should be updated to link to the original instead.

That article is vastly superior and is the one that should be being discussed, not this.

Re: A graph that should be front-page news

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I make this prediction: In 5 years, we will have learned that the red line was in error, and the temperatures will be in the bottom half of the graph.

I know this because every prediction of climate doom turned out to be false.

Entire nations were going to disappear under rising sea levels. It has not happened. I'm not saying no land sinks, but sea levels are not rising rapidly enough to prevent Al Gore (author of "An Inconvenient Truth") from buying an ocean-front home. The same applies to John Kerry and dozens of other outspoken prophets of doom who warned us that rising sea levels would submerge entire nations. They used the proceeds of their fear-mongering to buy oceanfront homes.

I remember signs in Glacier National Park telling us the glaciers would be gone by the year 2,000. It has not happened.

This "signal" too will pass.

Re: A graph that should be front-page news

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post #24

You also need to ask what is the likelihood you get this move just by chance

According to https://climatecasino.substack.com/p/some-monsters-are-real , this is a 1 in 7000 years event (i.e. 3.5 sigmas).

I'm not sure how you can make that claim with only 29 years of data without making some pretty big assumptions about the underlying distribution.

Re: A graph that should be front-page news

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I make this prediction: In 5 years, we will have learned that the red line was in error, and the temperatures will be in the bottom half of the graph. I know this because every prediction of climate doom turned out to be false. Entire nations were going to disappear under rising sea levels. It has not happened. I'm not saying no land sinks, but sea levels are not rising rapidly enough to prevent Al Gore (author of "A…

The red line is not a prediction, it is a measurement.

Re: A graph that should be front-page news

#37

There are many thing people could do, eat less meat, smaller homes, electric cars, green energy, no flights etc. but the vast majority of people does exactly nothing.

Chinese and Indian CO2 emissions dwarf anything you mentioned. You can stop eating meat altogether and move to a small doghouse, it won’t make any global impact at all.

If the factory is in China but the product is consumed in the US who should the CO2 emissions be attributed to?

Re: A graph that should be front-page news

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I make this prediction: In 5 years, we will have learned that the red line was in error, and the temperatures will be in the bottom half of the graph. I know this because every prediction of climate doom turned out to be false. Entire nations were going to disappear under rising sea levels. It has not happened. I'm not saying no land sinks, but sea levels are not rising rapidly enough to prevent Al Gore (author of "A…

You seem to be deep in denial.

These are not projections. These are measurements.

These are known trends from the past century. The trend is accelerating in what seems to be an exponential pattern.

https://www.climate.gov/news-features/understanding-climate/...

We are experiencing record heat in northern Europe, with temperatures in line with what a couple of decades ago would be expected in north Africa during the summer.

Southern Europe is already experiencing massive droughts in major urban centers.

Re: A graph that should be front-page news

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post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

According to https://climatecasino.substack.com/p/some-monsters-are-real , this is a 1 in 7000 years event (i.e. 3.5 sigmas).

I'm not sure how you can make that claim with only 29 years of data without making some pretty big assumptions about the underlying distribution.

We have ways to determine the past climate without having access to direct measurements.

Re: A graph that should be front-page news

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Chinese and Indian CO2 emissions dwarf anything you mentioned. You can stop eating meat altogether and move to a small doghouse, it won’t make any global impact at all.

This line of "hurrr but they are doing it too so why should I stop!" reasoning constitutes a logical fallacy that a motivated 9 year old is probably already able to reason themselves out of

How many people living in doghouses does it take to offset emissions from large industry?
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