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Re: Cyberpunk Comics, Manga and Graphic Novels

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as someone who loves Astro Boy (and everything else Tezuka made): Atom The Beginning was a disappointment. But I also believe that Pluto sucks too (some smaller stories, like the pianist, were great).

The Ghost In The Shell: Global Neural Network features one story by LRNZ. His work Geist Maschine (in italian only) is amazing.

Among the Cyberpunk 2077 comics, Big City Dreams is also very good.

Re: Cyberpunk Comics, Manga and Graphic Novels

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It might be skirting the edges of what is considered cyberpunk since it has Mecha elements but Patlabor is a fantastic manga/series that should have been included in this list [1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patlabor:_The_Movie

if for some reason you, random reader of this comment, decide to start watching Patlabor, be aware that there are two continuities:

1. Patlabor The Early Days (88-89, 7 OVA) -> Patlabor (89, Movie) -> Patlabor 2 (93, movie)

2. Patlabor The TV Series (89-90, 47 eps) -> Patlabor The New Files (90-92, 16 eps) -> Patlabor EZY (26-27, 3 movies)

Re: Cyberpunk Comics, Manga and Graphic Novels

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It might be skirting the edges of what is considered cyberpunk since it has Mecha elements but Patlabor is a fantastic manga/series that should have been included in this list [1] [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patlabor:_The_Movie

It is especially strange not to see it in the list given GiTS is heavily featured (according to the comments, I can't access the page or web archive ATM).

Patlabor movie 2 was directed by the same director as the original 1995 GiTS animation movie. Both patlabor 1 / 2 have similar themes to GiTS, and are heavily cyber punk in themes and esthetics.

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So much of this space has been collapsed into homogenized entertainment. Nowadays, by the time a child is ten years old they have seen every form of the hero’s journey in the cartoons they watch, to the degree where there are tropes and nods to source material or even sometimes derivatives of source. Sci fi, fantasy and other genres are blended in as hooks because cartoons have to keep viewership and eye balls, so th…

When society is affluent enough, people say it will become corrupt and fall apart. But when society has truly deteriorated, stories of heroes come to mind. If you look back at the era when cyberpunk social critiques emerged, the world that led that movement was wealthy, with a thick middle class. But when society starts to become poorer, those kinds of stories become stressful for the public. When you have room to breathe, such macro-level critiques serve as a 'healthy amount of stress' for survival. But when survival itself is at stake, it becomes much harder to be tolerant of criticism.

That's why the countries where cyberpunk flourished were wealthy ones

Re: Cyberpunk Comics, Manga and Graphic Novels

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Coincidentally, there is a new Ghost in the Shell anime that's premiering now on Amazon Prime Video. It's animation style and mood are closely aligned with the original 1989 manga, which is to say it's more cartoonish and light-hearted. I prefer the more adult oriented content the franchise was putting out up until about 2006, but the new anime series gives me hope that we might eventually see a follow-up animation o…

Personally I think I'm done with GitS at this point. How many times has it been rebooted, like a dozen times? The last one I enjoyed watching was Arise but I lost track after that. I think the series has been done to death and I would love to see some completely new IP from Masamune that is more reflective of the AI and economic upheavals we are experiencing in the 20s.

good adaptations of GitS:

- the first Oshii movie

- the two seasons of SAC + SSS

- this new one*

*so far

Re: Cyberpunk Comics, Manga and Graphic Novels

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So much of this space has been collapsed into homogenized entertainment. Nowadays, by the time a child is ten years old they have seen every form of the hero’s journey in the cartoons they watch, to the degree where there are tropes and nods to source material or even sometimes derivatives of source. Sci fi, fantasy and other genres are blended in as hooks because cartoons have to keep viewership and eye balls, so th…

Cyberpunk specifically has also been outdated fast by real world developments, and other genres emerging with similar topics, but different design(?)-language. The whole cyberspace-element for example kinda died (or evolved) with the rise of the real internet, the Matrix-Movies and recently with stuff like VRMMO-stories from asia.

The overall concepts and elements are still around in some way, but the specific combination and language that makes cyberpunk are gone. At the end I would say they were a result of their time, and time has changed, so not it's just nostalgia and retro.

Re: Cyberpunk Comics, Manga and Graphic Novels

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post #43

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it’s been this way forever. the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, 00, etc… all had generic trash movies and music too. stop getting recs from algorithms and the entire world will open back up to you. just like top40 music and generic movies from back in the day, you’re getting the lowest common denominator recs. i read a book about the music industry in the 80s (it’s been a couple years and i can’t remember the name now) but…

It's been never at this pace, nor in this quantity.

But it's always been at a faster pace and a higher quantity than whatever decade preceded it

Re: Cyberpunk Comics, Manga and Graphic Novels

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're probably not going to get it. And he has decent reasons for not wanting to bother. The nature (infamy?) of his activities over the past few years should also be noted. (And maybe chuckled at if you have a bit of a dark sense of humor.)

For those who don't know, like me: he moved into adult manga, hentai-ish poster book work. His popularity may have corrupted him... https://appleseed.fandom.com/wiki/Shirow_Masamune

A lot of mangaka have done that sort of thing, calling something normal in the industry "infamous" and "corrupting" seems overblown when Tatsuya Matsuki and Nobuhiro Watsuki are grooming children and collecting CP and every other mangaka seems to be shitposting racism.

Re: Cyberpunk Comics, Manga and Graphic Novels

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Personally I think I'm done with GitS at this point. How many times has it been rebooted, like a dozen times? The last one I enjoyed watching was Arise but I lost track after that. I think the series has been done to death and I would love to see some completely new IP from Masamune that is more reflective of the AI and economic upheavals we are experiencing in the 20s.

good adaptations of GitS: - the first Oshii movie - the two seasons of SAC + SSS - this new one* *so far

I have decided this mention of Mamoru Oshii is a good enough excuse to recommend STEVEM's continuing retrospective series on his life and work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=shxS5YpyK04&list=PLyhSewr7ii...

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