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Re: Cyberpunk Comics, Manga and Graphic Novels

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Post by rawTruthHurts »

toofy wrote: post #43
tangenter wrote: post #37

So much of this space has been collapsed into homogenized entertainment. Nowadays, by the time a child is ten years old they have seen every form of the hero’s journey in the cartoons they watch, to the degree where there are tropes and nods to source material or even sometimes derivatives of source. Sci fi, fantasy and other genres are blended in as hooks because cartoons have to keep viewership and eye balls, so th…

it’s been this way forever. the 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s, 00, etc… all had generic trash movies and music too. stop getting recs from algorithms and the entire world will open back up to you. just like top40 music and generic movies from back in the day, you’re getting the lowest common denominator recs. i read a book about the music industry in the 80s (it’s been a couple years and i can’t remember the name now) but…

It's been never at this pace, nor in this quantity.

Re: Cyberpunk Comics, Manga and Graphic Novels

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Post by navigate8310 »

left-struck wrote: post #40
tangenter wrote: post #37

So much of this space has been collapsed into homogenized entertainment. Nowadays, by the time a child is ten years old they have seen every form of the hero’s journey in the cartoons they watch, to the degree where there are tropes and nods to source material or even sometimes derivatives of source. Sci fi, fantasy and other genres are blended in as hooks because cartoons have to keep viewership and eye balls, so th…

While there’s a lot of slop out there that just exist to extract dollars, there are still some great movies being made every now and then. Don’t expect them to be the most popular high budget movies, you have to dig a little. The idea that there’s nothing new that’s worth watching though is clearly wrong and a typical bias that basically every person has to fight against as they age. You might even say it’s a cliche…

Might as well provide a method for good discoveries, as the current channels are extremely lifeless

Re: Cyberpunk Comics, Manga and Graphic Novels

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Post by genezeta »

A recent (2023) finding: from Guillaume Singelin, Frontier [0]. Fitting it into "cyberpunk" may need a bit of a push, but since the limits are kind of blurry I don't really care. The narrative is not perfect perhaps falling into wanting to say a lot more than the page limit allows, but all in all it's a good enough read.

[0] https://www.magnetic-press.com/frontier/

Re: Cyberpunk Comics, Manga and Graphic Novels

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Post by ElenaDaibunny »

toofy wrote: post #45
JimsonYang wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately that's how the system is. New material is risky and hollywood is not performing well financially At least we have houses like A24 which brings interesting content

a24 was great, they’ve definitely slipped though. as soon as they won their first oscar they’ve been chasing money rather than quality. their old catalog though, incredible. i’d say like 80+ percent of the movies they released were fucking amazing. but that has fallen dramatically. neon is still going strong though!

a24 style really hits

Re: Cyberpunk Comics, Manga and Graphic Novels

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Post by Cthulhu_ »

tangenter wrote: post #37

So much of this space has been collapsed into homogenized entertainment. Nowadays, by the time a child is ten years old they have seen every form of the hero’s journey in the cartoons they watch, to the degree where there are tropes and nods to source material or even sometimes derivatives of source. Sci fi, fantasy and other genres are blended in as hooks because cartoons have to keep viewership and eye balls, so th…

And yet. The other day I saw Dune described as this generation's LotR, which was that generation's Star Wars. Dune (and LotR, and SW) are all Hero's Journey stories (what isn't?), yet they're each pretty unique.

Granted, LotR and Dune were written in the 50's and 60's, respectively, with Star Wars following a decade later.

All I'm saying is that what is new depends on what generation you grow up in. And I suppose how much media you're exposed to. Speaking for myself, LotR was the second film I ever saw in the cinema so it was a whole new experience.

For the younger generations, these are old films, much like how idk, Spartacus and co was an old film for me.

tl;dr, the kids will be alright. Actually the kids also appreciate older media, there's a whole generation of late teenagers now rediscovering 2000's music / culture.

Re: Cyberpunk Comics, Manga and Graphic Novels

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Post by whilenot-dev »

tangenter wrote: post #37

So much of this space has been collapsed into homogenized entertainment. Nowadays, by the time a child is ten years old they have seen every form of the hero’s journey in the cartoons they watch, to the degree where there are tropes and nods to source material or even sometimes derivatives of source. Sci fi, fantasy and other genres are blended in as hooks because cartoons have to keep viewership and eye balls, so th…

I meant to write quite a long response to your comment, but let me just bring it down to a single question: How is your feeling different from melancholia?

There is and always will be mainstream, niche, the unknown and everything in between. There was always very little new material and a lot of works just gained recognition when their zeitgeist was long overdue, too. I think experimentation is hard, and it's even harder to justify experimentation in the evolving economic climate.

Genres are meant to be collapsed, or rather they should blend and dissolve into each other. The earlier (and good) seasons of The Simpsons are a poster child when it comes to "flattening and duplicating old material". Almost every episode cites a movie or work of literature, and there was nothing wrong with it! It's part of why I understand the 90s as a cultural era of citations, and I had to grow up with that sentiment. It took me quite some time to understand that we moved past it.

Nowadays, we are fortunate enough that a lot of things from the past 10 decades have been digitized and are readily available on demand. That's amazing! Nothing is stopping me from asking myself some naive questions, like "What makes a good drama?" or "If Die Hard is considered to be a Christmas movie, why isn't Falling Down considered to be a summer movie?". I think there is still stuff to explore.

I'll just leave this unfinished thought with a recommendation to a niche movie I discovered recently: Sleep Has Her House (2017)[0]

[0]: https://scottbarley.com/Sleep-Has-Her-House

Re: Cyberpunk Comics, Manga and Graphic Novels

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Post by ozgur44 »

whilenot-dev wrote: post #58
tangenter wrote: post #37

So much of this space has been collapsed into homogenized entertainment. Nowadays, by the time a child is ten years old they have seen every form of the hero’s journey in the cartoons they watch, to the degree where there are tropes and nods to source material or even sometimes derivatives of source. Sci fi, fantasy and other genres are blended in as hooks because cartoons have to keep viewership and eye balls, so th…

I meant to write quite a long response to your comment, but let me just bring it down to a single question: How is your feeling different from melancholia? There is and always will be mainstream, niche, the unknown and everything in between. There was always very little new material and a lot of works just gained recognition when their zeitgeist was long overdue, too. I think experimentation is hard, and it's even ha…

imo a good contradiction makes for a good stroy if you know what i mean

Re: Cyberpunk Comics, Manga and Graphic Novels

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Post by teroshan »

genezeta wrote: post #54

A recent (2023) finding: from Guillaume Singelin, Frontier [0]. Fitting it into "cyberpunk" may need a bit of a push, but since the limits are kind of blurry I don't really care. The narrative is not perfect perhaps falling into wanting to say a lot more than the page limit allows, but all in all it's a good enough read. [0] https://www.magnetic-press.com/frontier/

I'm vouching for Frontier as well, as well as "Carbon & Silicon" [0] from Mathieu Bablet. All of his work is gorgeous, I love his art.

If you liked Frontier's theme and are into video games I recommend you check out "Citizen Sleeper" [1] illustrated by Guillaume Singelin as well.

It's a 7 hour narrative text-based adventure that really hooked me one week-end. Your choices depend on how you "spend" your dice, dice that are cast at the beginning of every single day on the station so you get to pre-plan your actions somewhat.

Gameplay wise it's mostly reading, but I liked exploring the station they created.

[0] https://www.magnetic-press.com/carbon-and-silicon/

[1] https://store.steampowered.com/app/1578650/Citizen_Sleeper/

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