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Re: How we can reduce traffic congestion

#151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you think Google should get government sign-off on every change to its routing algorithm?

Medical/psychological experiments involving human subjects are mandated by federal law to run through a review board. Did that happen here? This isn't a medical experiment, but I don't think its nuts to feel like maybe there should have been some oversight.

This is only true for experiments funded by the government. In this case the experiment was funded solely by Google.

Re: How we can reduce traffic congestion

#152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you think Google should get government sign-off on every change to its routing algorithm?

Medical/psychological experiments involving human subjects are mandated by federal law to run through a review board. Did that happen here? This isn't a medical experiment, but I don't think its nuts to feel like maybe there should have been some oversight.

Does this apply to Netflix, Amazon, Disneys, and many other streaming providers's "What to watch next? Recommended..." of sorts (or music/podcast streaming services)...

Re: How we can reduce traffic congestion

#153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Medical/psychological experiments involving human subjects are mandated by federal law to run through a review board. Did that happen here? This isn't a medical experiment, but I don't think its nuts to feel like maybe there should have been some oversight.

This is only true for experiments funded by the government. In this case the experiment was funded solely by Google.

IRB approval is required for human subject research funded by private parties, too; not just government. But only really in the medical field.

Re: How we can reduce traffic congestion

#154
post #153

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is only true for experiments funded by the government. In this case the experiment was funded solely by Google.

IRB approval is required for human subject research funded by private parties, too; not just government. But only really in the medical field.

>But only really in the medical field.

Looking it up, the exception where it is required is specifically for clinical investigations regulated by the Food and Drug Administration.

Re: How we can reduce traffic congestion

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post #152

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Medical/psychological experiments involving human subjects are mandated by federal law to run through a review board. Did that happen here? This isn't a medical experiment, but I don't think its nuts to feel like maybe there should have been some oversight.

Does this apply to Netflix, Amazon, Disneys, and many other streaming providers's "What to watch next? Recommended..." of sorts (or music/podcast streaming services)...

Routing traffic affects not only the drivers using Google Maps, but also everyone around them IN REALTIME.

Netflix personalized recommendations affect only the individual, not those around them who are not using Netflix.

Re: How we can reduce traffic congestion

#156
How we can reduce traffic congestion?

1. Extensive support of public transport: metro, tram, dedicated bus routes (separate from car traffic), dedicated paths for bicycles.

2. ... maybe whatever is this ...

UPDATE: here's a good graph - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_transport#/media/File:P... , i.e. car traffic is often congested because of inherent low passenger bandwith. If google wants to manage traffic as internet routing - why then stick with outdated low bandwith ethernet cable?

Re: How we can reduce traffic congestion

#158

I've noticed that Google Maps has started sucking a lot lately, routing us onto routes that take 2-4 minutes longer when a faster route is clearly available or taking us on nonsensical detours, and I wonder if this experiment is a reason why. There's a hidden cost to this, and that's trust in the mapping app. I've stopped using Google Navigation for routine trips where I know how to get to the destination. It used to…

I've noticed this too. It has gotten more frequent over last year or so. It will route me to narrow roads which I know for a fact will take me much longer.

I had the worst experience about 3 weeks ago, when I kept driving on very narrow and congested roads for almost 3 hours and the destination was showing still an hour away. If I had just taken the normal route, it would've taken me only 2 hours total. But Google thought let's make this guy drive around for 4 hours because fuck him.

Re: How we can reduce traffic congestion

#159
So basically sending some people on worse routes for the sake of the “greater good”? I long suspected they did this and is not what I want. I don’t want to be forced to a worse outcome for myself just for the sake of the “greater good”. Taken to its logical extreme, lots of evil had been propagated because of the “greater good”.
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