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Re: How we can reduce traffic congestion

#71

Why cant we have smart stop lights. Nothing more annoying than sitting on a street with nobody coming and a red light for some arbitrary time period that's totally incorrect for the time period I'm currently in

Most cities I've lived in have these in the US...

Re: How we can reduce traffic congestion

#72
post #49

The same things keeps happening every time I find myself stuck in traffic on the interstate. Out of nowhere, a popup appears in Google Maps: a faster route is available! 4 minutes faster! Unless either the passenger or the driver are fast enough to hit "No thanks", the change auto-applies, and Google now wants me to exit the interstate at the nearest exit and drive some random road I had no idea about, to rejoin the…

Same. This is why I switched to Apple Maps. Sometimes the Google detours would end in dangerous situations, like a left turn with no light across a major road. And it would be to save 2 minutes-ridiculous!

I've had Google try to route me across private property (an apartment complex parking lot) to avoid a signaled intersection and save a couple of minutes.

Re: How we can reduce traffic congestion

#73
post #45

Well, duh. Grid design that allows traffic to diffuse is a secret superpower of American cities. Along with stroads that seamlessly blend local and arterial traffic. One of unforgivable mistakes of Project Zero Vision is sabotage of stroads. If forced more traffic onto local streets, resulting in MORE pedestrian deaths.

Do you have stats to support your statement?

Sure. Pedestrian deaths are above the 2015 levels in all the large West Coast cities that went full-on with the Zero Vision project. Numbers are for 2015 and 2025.

Seattle: 7/18

Portland: 11/20

LA: 130/150

SF is unchanged at 24 (they had a HUGE drop from 2024, luckily).

And no, the following excuses do not apply:

COVID - deaths started growing _before_ COVID.

Car size increase - cars did not increase significantly during this time.

Population increase - ditto.

Re: How we can reduce traffic congestion

#74
post #6

One of the things this type of intervention doesn't take into account is that different roads are built with different levels of hardiness based on the amount of traffic they are expected to receive. For instance, a few years ago, a segment of I-495 in Delaware needed to be unexpectedly shut down for emergency repairs. Drivers were rerouted. But because of the increase in traffic on the less-hardy detour route, that…

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Re: How we can reduce traffic congestion

#75

Why cant we have smart stop lights. Nothing more annoying than sitting on a street with nobody coming and a red light for some arbitrary time period that's totally incorrect for the time period I'm currently in

Also, left turn lanes that are too short for the average number of cars wanting to turn left, and left turn signal cycles that are too short to clear the left turn lanes.

Re: How we can reduce traffic congestion

#76
post #52

Surely the top way to avoid traffic congestion would be communities where it's possible to live near where you work, shop, go out, etc. and not doing everything else exactly the same but taking a slightly different highway in your car

This is possible if you’re not picky about where you live, where you work, your career options, how crowded your local vicinity is, or how much you pay for your residence.

The more your preferences or financial constraints come into play, the more you have to give up.

Most people settle in for driving because it allows them to pick from more job options than those that happen to be located near their house and more housing options than what happens to be near your job.

This didn’t matter as much 200 years ago when most people’s job options were limited to farming or something in service of farming.

It got much harder when the range of people’s jobs exploded and finding a company hiring in your specialty meant traveling some distance from home.

It gets even harder when there are two earners in a household trying to find two jobs.

Re: How we can reduce traffic congestion

#77
post #49

The same things keeps happening every time I find myself stuck in traffic on the interstate. Out of nowhere, a popup appears in Google Maps: a faster route is available! 4 minutes faster! Unless either the passenger or the driver are fast enough to hit "No thanks", the change auto-applies, and Google now wants me to exit the interstate at the nearest exit and drive some random road I had no idea about, to rejoin the…

I’ve just started taking surface roads out of Charlotte at peak hours because I know how to get around, and any route that’s part of Apple/Google maps defaults will invariably be clogged with everyone following their directions. Surface streets tend to be blissfully open these days.

Re: How we can reduce traffic congestion

#79
post #52

Surely the top way to avoid traffic congestion would be communities where it's possible to live near where you work, shop, go out, etc. and not doing everything else exactly the same but taking a slightly different highway in your car

This is possible if you’re not picky about where you live, where you work, your career options, how crowded your local vicinity is, or how much you pay for your residence. The more your preferences or financial constraints come into play, the more you have to give up. Most people settle in for driving because it allows them to pick from more job options than those that happen to be located near their house and more h…

> This is possible if you’re not picky about where you live, where you work, your career options,

Yup.

And even if you arent't picky. The amount of surface area you can cover scales quadratically with the distance you can commute (either by traveling longer, or by going faster). So as a first approximation, the amount of competition for your labour also goes up quadratically.

Job-hopping is one of the best ways to get better jobs. And it is a LOT easier if you can commute further.

Re: How we can reduce traffic congestion

#80
Great, Google, you want to reduce traffic congestion? Give me the ability to say "Avoid left turns" in your Maps and Waze directions.

Until you support a feature that simple and obvious, I don't have a lot of interest in your input on this subject.

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