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Death of the Status Update: Why 55% of Americans Stopped Posting on Social Media

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Re: Death of the Status Update: Why 55% of Americans Stopped Posting on Social Media

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Post by 1vuio0pswjnm7 »

alexpotato wrote: post #23

Back in 2005-ish era, I helped reboot a college club (I was the coach/advisor). We started out using forum software to co-ordinate what we were doing but eventually (2008-ish) switched to Facebook as the president of the club pointed out "Alex, everyone is already on Facebook and the notifications from us are in the middle of the notifications for when the next party is" etc. Fast forward to today and the club is reb…

There is nothing wrong with the bulletin board at the student center

It works

It's kinda sad that members of a club have to share their private details with some remote third party focused on surveillance, data collection and targeting ads in order communicate with other members or potential members. Not to mention the possibility of "age verification"

When used for public notice, the benefits, if any, of "social media" over the bulletin board at the student center are probably not worth the hassles

Re: Death of the Status Update: Why 55% of Americans Stopped Posting on Social Media

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Post by busymom0 »

baby wrote: post #85
halflife wrote: post #4

Back to 2015, I stopped posting on Facebook when I noticed that it’s no longer about connecting with my friends, but a never ending stream of boring posts from groups and people that I don’t know or care to follow. All my “social” life just moved to direct communication in WhatsApp (meta owned as well)

We really need a real facebook app again, something we only use with close friends or people we meet irl to become friends

I am currently building something where you can post once per day. If you want to post again within the 24 hour window, the prior post gets replaced with the new one and it also shows at the old post's timestamp in the chronological feed.

As for connecting to people, you drag and drop the connect button into a folder name which you want their posts to show in. For example, You can create custom folders for friends, family, coworkers etc. After that, you drag the connect button into that folder. And each folder creates a custom feed from only those people for you.

I am open to brainstorming more ideas.

Re: Death of the Status Update: Why 55% of Americans Stopped Posting on Social Media

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Post by sysworld »

1vuio0pswjnm7 wrote: post #101
alexpotato wrote: post #23

Back in 2005-ish era, I helped reboot a college club (I was the coach/advisor). We started out using forum software to co-ordinate what we were doing but eventually (2008-ish) switched to Facebook as the president of the club pointed out "Alex, everyone is already on Facebook and the notifications from us are in the middle of the notifications for when the next party is" etc. Fast forward to today and the club is reb…

There is nothing wrong with the bulletin board at the student center It works It's kinda sad that members of a club have to share their private details with some remote third party focused on surveillance, data collection and targeting ads in order communicate with other members or potential members. Not to mention the possibility of "age verification" When used for public notice, the benefits, if any, of "social med…

I love bulletin boards. We had one in the apartment I used to live in. There is something about getting help/helping out super local people.

Re: Death of the Status Update: Why 55% of Americans Stopped Posting on Social Media

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Post by yason »

Social media as it was born touched a novel point of contact that didn't quite exist before. It was a powerful shift from what we had before.

Social media allowed you to be in touch with people in a way that wasn't possible with phone calls, text messages, instant messaging, email, or domain-specific forums.

What I could do in Facebook in 2010 was stay "friends" with selected acquaintances such as old classmates with whom I never was in email terms, messaging terms, or any other terms except having known them in school (or at work or at a hobby or...) I could follow their life via their posts, and I could leave a comment, sometimes, without any expectation that we should ever talk, meet, chat, or become more than old classmates. I haven't sent email to anyone in my school that I didn't know outside of school, as a friend. I don't have their numbers and it would be awkward to even consider calling someone with whom we didn't necessarily even talk much in school. But it was perfectly okay to ask someone to be your friend on Facebook (like, Hey, I know you? and if he did remember he would accept) and follow their postings and maybe (re)kindle something with no pressure to grow it into anything more than that.

We had that. Now... we no longer do. Or we still have Facebook and we can send friend requests to old acquantainces that I'd like to follow but there's nothing to follow because they aren't posting and because Facebook wouldn't show me their posts. So we're back to the point where actually making contact with another person (on Facebook) basically requires sending them a message in Facebook. Which already goes beyond what's expected from an old acquantaince on Facebook.

I recall a site for classmates where you could register to your school years and see your classmates there. But that was before social media and there weren't any posts that you could comment. You could just see your classmates listed there, and one in ten might have written a few words in their profile. And that was classmates only, not ex-work colleagues or other people you've passed behind in your life. Facebook was really good at the time it became a thing.

We still have email, instant messaging, etc. but what's the platform today where I can keep in touch with people I'm not emailing or talking with? Is there one?

Re: Death of the Status Update: Why 55% of Americans Stopped Posting on Social Media

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Post by jandrewrogers »

hvb2 wrote: post #86
jandrewrogers wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Many people don't read their email anymore. When I send an email I often have to send a text message to the person telling them I sent an email or they won't see it.

> Many people don't read their email anymore. I don't see how that would work as in many jurisdictions, email is an accepted legal way to communicate between a company and a customer. So when you don't year your email that's like not reading your snail mail in the 90s. It might go well for some time, until you miss that one message about a late payment or something...

A large number of services that send various billing etc things via snail mail and email also send text messages. The other part of this is that almost everything is automated these days for most people. Bill payment etc happens automagically. Most necessary notifications occur via phone apps.

Ignoring email works just fine, as evidenced by the fact that the majority of people I know don't check email unless it is for their work. Zero impact on their lives. It is the same with snail mail. I think I check my snail mail 6-8 times per year mostly so that the letter box doesn't physically overflow with junk.

Re: Death of the Status Update: Why 55% of Americans Stopped Posting on Social Media

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Post by deathanatos »

teddyh wrote: post #98
brudgers wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Subject lines have always been the best way and most emails could be nothing but subject line if blank bodies were allowed. But because subject lines are more work and people who love sending email tend to love it because it is very low effort, the venn of email senders and those who write subject lines is small.

Here’s how you do it: https://www.jwz.org/doc/threading.html >

That site seems to serve offensive images¹.

(¹yes, it seems like you can work around it by going to the URL de novo, … but IDK, doesn't seem worth it.)

Re: Death of the Status Update: Why 55% of Americans Stopped Posting on Social Media

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Post by fragmede »

teddyh wrote: post #98
brudgers wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Subject lines have always been the best way and most emails could be nothing but subject line if blank bodies were allowed. But because subject lines are more work and people who love sending email tend to love it because it is very low effort, the venn of email senders and those who write subject lines is small.

Here’s how you do it: https://www.jwz.org/doc/threading.html >

Lol jwz still has the HN referrer image set.

Re: Death of the Status Update: Why 55% of Americans Stopped Posting on Social Media

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Post by fragmede »

bobthepanda wrote: post #88
alexpotato wrote: post #23

Back in 2005-ish era, I helped reboot a college club (I was the coach/advisor). We started out using forum software to co-ordinate what we were doing but eventually (2008-ish) switched to Facebook as the president of the club pointed out "Alex, everyone is already on Facebook and the notifications from us are in the middle of the notifications for when the next party is" etc. Fast forward to today and the club is reb…

for events specifically, Partiful seems to be the thing in my area finally displacing the Facebook events model, and it's a lot less bloated.

It comes from Palantir though, so some people don't want to use it for that reason.

Re: Death of the Status Update: Why 55% of Americans Stopped Posting on Social Media

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Post by fragmede »

jjav wrote: post #75
joe_mamba wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have Messager app fatigue at this point (where I live). - Doctors offices and official services use SMS. - Some of my close family and friends use Signal (on my pressure). - The distant boomers use Facebook Messenger - With the younger people they use Snapchat. - Almost everyone else in the country uses Whatsapp as that's the dominant messaging app. - My friends who live in Berlin use Telegram - Online communities…

> God I miss the 2000s. Exactly! Having to check 27 different places for messages (also add individual sites like linkedin, etc, where people message), it is completely ridiculous. Just send me email. It's universal, standard, no corporation owns it (thus no corportation can shut me out unlike facebook or all the proprietary solutions).

Pidgin had it so good. Have you tried Beeper?

https://www.beeper.com/

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