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Death of the Status Update: Why 55% of Americans Stopped Posting on Social Media

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Re: Death of the Status Update: Why 55% of Americans Stopped Posting on Social Media

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Post by DANmode »

alexpotato wrote: post #23

Back in 2005-ish era, I helped reboot a college club (I was the coach/advisor). We started out using forum software to co-ordinate what we were doing but eventually (2008-ish) switched to Facebook as the president of the club pointed out "Alex, everyone is already on Facebook and the notifications from us are in the middle of the notifications for when the next party is" etc. Fast forward to today and the club is reb…

?!

The commons became the commons again, instead of being partially or completely trapped on Facebook,

and you’re upset?

Bulletin boards are awesome.

Physical assembly is awesome.

Re: Death of the Status Update: Why 55% of Americans Stopped Posting on Social Media

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Post by DANmode »

wiether wrote: post #71
1659447091 wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why not group emails? There's a guy that runs multiple sports teams at a local recreation center, in multiple adult divisions (wide age/culture rage), and he has been using email to great effect for over a decade that I have known him. I get 2-3 weekly emails about teams that need a sub for a game and those spots continue to fill up quickly. He probably has the majority of regulars (in the hundreds) at that sports ce…

I've never seen "group emails" working, even when amongst technical people. Part of it is just how emails work, part of it is how each clients work, part of it is people not knowing/caring. You'll have: - the guy that don't use the group email address as recipient, but personal email address - the guy that change the subject which starts a new thread/discussion - the guy that include all previous emails in their answ…

I have.

For hackerspaces, tech meetups, book clubs, cycling clubs, city cleanup volunteer groups…

It works fine.

Don’t let your bad experience ruin it for everyone. Especially with an administrative backend, email-based distribution and comms works great for smaller groups!

Re: Death of the Status Update: Why 55% of Americans Stopped Posting on Social Media

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Post by baby »

ericbarrett wrote: post #28
dartharva wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I tried hard but am failing to see how what you say couldn't just be fulfilled by a chat group today (or even back then).

But which one - SMS/RCS? iMessage? WhatsApp? Signal? Telegram? Discord?

Whatsapp, that’s the one everyone uses

Re: Death of the Status Update: Why 55% of Americans Stopped Posting on Social Media

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Post by bobthepanda »

LoganDark wrote: post #73
wiether wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've never seen "group emails" working, even when amongst technical people. Part of it is just how emails work, part of it is how each clients work, part of it is people not knowing/caring. You'll have: - the guy that don't use the group email address as recipient, but personal email address - the guy that change the subject which starts a new thread/discussion - the guy that include all previous emails in their answ…

Subject lines shouldn't be relied on to identify emails. In-Reply-To / References exists in most clients if the mailing list specifies a Message-ID...

even in the best scenarios, a well organized group of people is not using all the features of email "properly" to say nothing of groups that are supposed to have the general public.

Re: Death of the Status Update: Why 55% of Americans Stopped Posting on Social Media

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Post by baby »

halflife wrote: post #4

Back to 2015, I stopped posting on Facebook when I noticed that it’s no longer about connecting with my friends, but a never ending stream of boring posts from groups and people that I don’t know or care to follow. All my “social” life just moved to direct communication in WhatsApp (meta owned as well)

We really need a real facebook app again, something we only use with close friends or people we meet irl to become friends

Re: Death of the Status Update: Why 55% of Americans Stopped Posting on Social Media

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Post by hvb2 »

jandrewrogers wrote: post #70
Symbiote wrote: post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When I ran a student society we used an email mailing list. You can have two if necessary, one only for announcements and one for discussion.

Many people don't read their email anymore. When I send an email I often have to send a text message to the person telling them I sent an email or they won't see it.

> Many people don't read their email anymore.

I don't see how that would work as in many jurisdictions, email is an accepted legal way to communicate between a company and a customer. So when you don't year your email that's like not reading your snail mail in the 90s. It might go well for some time, until you miss that one message about a late payment or something...

Re: Death of the Status Update: Why 55% of Americans Stopped Posting on Social Media

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Post by bobthepanda »

CatMustard wrote: post #46
ericbarrett wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But which one - SMS/RCS? iMessage? WhatsApp? Signal? Telegram? Discord?

Funny, every time I've joined a new group for dancing or art classes or DnD or anything it's always 100% of the time a WhatsApp group, no questions asked. (This is in Ireland). Never occurred to me that Americans wouldn't have a common group chat app everyone uses. Do Americans not all use iMessage, since pretty much everybody has an iPhone there?

at least in the US, most people are fine with iMessage/SMS since

* pretty early on the vast majority of phone plans started bundling unlimited text messaging, which IIRC was a big motivator for using messaging apps abroad

* because of the vast scale of the country, domestic coverage results in no roaming for the places Americans spend most of their time, unlike in Europe where there are multitudes of countries you'd be passing in a one to two hour flight. Roaming charges in the EU were only abolished in 2022, late enough that everybody has settled on apps as the best way to manage that now.

* many American plans extend unlimited messaging to Canada and Mexico, the two likeliest places that Americans would go to abroad

Re: Death of the Status Update: Why 55% of Americans Stopped Posting on Social Media

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Post by bobthepanda »

alexpotato wrote: post #23

Back in 2005-ish era, I helped reboot a college club (I was the coach/advisor). We started out using forum software to co-ordinate what we were doing but eventually (2008-ish) switched to Facebook as the president of the club pointed out "Alex, everyone is already on Facebook and the notifications from us are in the middle of the notifications for when the next party is" etc. Fast forward to today and the club is reb…

for events specifically, Partiful seems to be the thing in my area finally displacing the Facebook events model, and it's a lot less bloated.

Re: Death of the Status Update: Why 55% of Americans Stopped Posting on Social Media

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Post by rickcarlino »

Social media companies became so obsessed about maximizing ROI on short form video content that they stopped being a platform to share with friends and turned into Temu Youtube. You won’t see your friends stuff on any of them because it’s designed to work that way. Group chats are the only way to have a meaningful conversation if you a casual non-technical Internet dweller.

Re: Death of the Status Update: Why 55% of Americans Stopped Posting on Social Media

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Post by Morromist »

insickness wrote: post #9

To keep people engaged, social media platforms have shifted from showing you content from people you know to prioritizing viral content. The algorithms know viral content offers an endless stream of entertainment that keeps people scrolling longer.

Fb is clearly hated by its owners, Meta. Its been monitized to the max and deeply neglected. They desperately want to move on to virtual reality or AI - ANYTHING to escape from having to make their money off fb.

Makes one wonder what it would be like if someone else had built and maintained it who really belived in the vision of connecting communities instead of sucking them dry.

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