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Woman in Brazil enslaved for 55 years by 3 generations of the same family

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Re: Woman in Brazil enslaved for 55 years by 3 generations of the same family

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is not anti-White racist, but facts. It is white abusing black, not the other way around. How can you have the skin so thin with something like this? For fuck sake.

Selective capitalisation of different races (white cf. Black) is a common dog whistle employed by anti-Whites. Are you sure you want to start using statistical assumptions as "facts" in crime reports? That is going to backfire very badly for your disproportionately black offenders...

You are not in a healthy state of mind.

Re: Woman in Brazil enslaved for 55 years by 3 generations of the same family

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Its a common occurrence for families to take in poor girls to do house work in exchange for food and lodging. And with the insidious nature of Brazilian racism, they will pretend that she is part of the family. They might even take her on vacations (to work, of course). If you grow up with this mentality it might even be hard for you to see the injustice. Brazil abolished slavery in 1888, the last country in the Amer…

I was shocked to read how late even several prominent European countries abolished it. Most northern US states abolished slavery even before Britain, France, Portugal, and (especially) Spain did.

Serfdom wasn't legally abolished in Russia until 1861. Slavery was technically abolished in the late 1700s, but in some areas serfs were still bought and sold like chattel until the end of serfdom.

The Ottoman Empire legally abolished slavery in the 1880s, but there was still illicit yet tolerated slavery in Turkey into the 1930s.

I think in some areas of the Sahel chattel slavery may still exist as a practical matter. Mauritania didn't legally abolish chattel slavery until 1981, for example, but as in other areas it can take decades for reality to match the law, given the laws were often changed under international pressure rather than reflecting any change to the domestic social order.

Re: Woman in Brazil enslaved for 55 years by 3 generations of the same family

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> Although the family has agreed to compensate her, Maria, who lived in near-total isolation and without contact with her relatives, will remain with her employers What the fuck? Why did the law need the family's "agreement"?? Why is nobody going to jail for imprisoning someone for 55 years??

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Re: Woman in Brazil enslaved for 55 years by 3 generations of the same family

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Its a common occurrence for families to take in poor girls to do house work in exchange for food and lodging. And with the insidious nature of Brazilian racism, they will pretend that she is part of the family. They might even take her on vacations (to work, of course). If you grow up with this mentality it might even be hard for you to see the injustice. Brazil abolished slavery in 1888, the last country in the Amer…

I was repeatedly told in school that Brazil was the last country to abolish slavery, only to find out recently that places like UAE had not abolished slavery until 1967.

Re: Woman in Brazil enslaved for 55 years by 3 generations of the same family

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I was talking to a doctor who went to medical school in Brazil and said it was normal for upper-middle class people to have a live-in domestic servant. Many of the floorplans for condos or houses include a servants quarters. They were telling me theirs cost around $12 USD a day which is not a bad deal.

>$12 USD a day which is not a bad deal

For the owner or the servant?

Re: Woman in Brazil enslaved for 55 years by 3 generations of the same family

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post #25

I was talking to a doctor who went to medical school in Brazil and said it was normal for upper-middle class people to have a live-in domestic servant. Many of the floorplans for condos or houses include a servants quarters. They were telling me theirs cost around $12 USD a day which is not a bad deal.

Not a bad deal for who?

Re: Woman in Brazil enslaved for 55 years by 3 generations of the same family

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post #11

Its a common occurrence for families to take in poor girls to do house work in exchange for food and lodging. And with the insidious nature of Brazilian racism, they will pretend that she is part of the family. They might even take her on vacations (to work, of course). If you grow up with this mentality it might even be hard for you to see the injustice. Brazil abolished slavery in 1888, the last country in the Amer…

I was repeatedly told in school that Brazil was the last country to abolish slavery, only to find out recently that places like UAE had not abolished slavery until 1967.

They likely had the qualifier, as does GP, that it was the last country "in the Americas."

Re: Woman in Brazil enslaved for 55 years by 3 generations of the same family

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You reckon swearing is what makes the difference?

I'm saying maturity, respect and a modicum of decorum makes a difference.

We didn't get to the point of being disrespectful yet, except perhaps to slave owners, so this intervention seems a little early. Decorum doesn't add much meaning (it means don't swear, for instance?), and I get the impression that HN is irredeemably mature and nothing can change that.

Re: Woman in Brazil enslaved for 55 years by 3 generations of the same family

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Its a common occurrence for families to take in poor girls to do house work in exchange for food and lodging. And with the insidious nature of Brazilian racism, they will pretend that she is part of the family. They might even take her on vacations (to work, of course). If you grow up with this mentality it might even be hard for you to see the injustice. Brazil abolished slavery in 1888, the last country in the Amer…

Correction: The US still has not abolished slavery.

It is still legal in the case of prisoners: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirteenth_Amendment_to_the_Un...

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