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Vint Cerf, “father of the Internet”, is retiring

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A genuine innovator No matter what you think of Google

Google can't tarnish Vint Cerf. There are lots of brilliant people at Google who do no evil. The fact that the company makes evil decisions about the direction of the web, privacy, and performs blatantly monopolistic actions does not outweigh the good things people at Google have done. At least not yet. You can hate the company but love the brilliant work the engineers have done. The same can be said of lots of compa…

His name shows up in Epstein files as #1 on Epstein's list of scientists

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%209/EFTA003070...

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I still remember back in 2005 when I just joined a company, a coworker was quipping Google is not a real elite company, because it doesn't even have a Turing Award winner. I showed him the news that Vint Cerf joined Google recently.

Now they have several Turing Award winners, and several Nobel Prize winners.

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I met Vint at the Kech Institute for Space Studies. He arrived to help us look at in-space data centers for planetary science throughout the solar system. He was a big proponent of delay-tolerant networking and other useful networking stacks, so he was the "rep" for that layer of problems.

Just the nicest guy you could imagine. He took the note-takers job during our breakouts, had beers with us after the session, and asked really good questions and never asserted anything the whole time.

What a legend.

Re: Vint Cerf, “father of the Internet”, is retiring

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can just hide things you don't like, or y'know, live and let live.

> You can just hide things you don't like, or y'know, live and let live. The same goes for you. Calling out bullshit and disinformation benefits the whole community,unlike nonsensical remarks. So if you don't appreciate efforts to counter nonsense by bringing facts to the discussion, just sit this one out.

An uphill battle. IMHO it's okay to assume users have brains and they can figure out the difference between facts and jokes just fine.

Re: Vint Cerf, “father of the Internet”, is retiring

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How many "father's of the Internet" are there exactly?

Al Gore is definitely one of them!

> Al Gore is definitely one of them!

Absolutely correct — and that's not sarcasm or irony. (Gore never claimed to have "invented the Internet"; that was a calumny spread by Republicans.)

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How many "father's of the Internet" are there exactly?

Al Gore is definitely one of them!

> Al Gore is definitely one of them!

Al Gore Jr.'s father, the Sr., was instrumental in enacting the US Interstate Highway system:

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Gore_Sr.#U.S._Senate

Which transformed the economy for physical goods. Jr saw parallels with the transportation of information, and coined a term (in 1978!) about it:

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Information_superhighway

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Gore_and_information_techno...

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How many "father's of the Internet" are there exactly?

The two that are most widely recognized are Vint Cerf and Bob Kahn, for TCP/IP, but that's just the start of it. There's JCR Licklider, who first imagined a global network of computers. There's Leonard Kleinrock, first ARPANET nod and packet-switching theory. Larry Roberts, who led development of ARPANET. Paul Baran independently invented packet switching. Donald Davies coined the term "packet" and also developed packet switching. Louis Pouzin also worked on TCP/IP. Jon Postel managed the IP standards and address assignments for decades. Ray Tomlinson invented email and the @ sign. Of course, we can't forget Tim Berneres-Lee, to whom we credit the invention of the web (HTTP, HTML, URLS, the first web browser and server).

So, eleven.

The Dream Machine is a history book by M. Mitchell Waldrop that tells the story of JCR Licklider.

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