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Vint Cerf, “father of the Internet”, is retiring

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Re: Vint Cerf, “father of the Internet”, is retiring

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Post by jibal »

djtriptych wrote: post #34
tomhow wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please don’t post snarky or low-substance comments on HN. As another commenter has pointed out, Vint Cerf himself credits Gore as playing a significant role in enabling the Internet’s emergence. He didn’t claim to have “invented” it.

I took it as a... joke... Can we post jokes?? Everyone knows Al Gore didn't sit around in an SV garage inventing the internet.

It's not so much a joke as a smear. Gore was attacked for claiming to be the inventor of the Internet, but he never said that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Gore_and_information_techno...

Re: Vint Cerf, “father of the Internet”, is retiring

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Post by jibal »

Vaslo wrote: post #40
tomhow wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please don’t post snarky or low-substance comments on HN. As another commenter has pointed out, Vint Cerf himself credits Gore as playing a significant role in enabling the Internet’s emergence. He didn’t claim to have “invented” it.

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He did not say that. What he did say was true.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Gore_and_information_techno...

Re: Vint Cerf, “father of the Internet”, is retiring

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Vaslo wrote: post #40
tomhow wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please don’t post snarky or low-substance comments on HN. As another commenter has pointed out, Vint Cerf himself credits Gore as playing a significant role in enabling the Internet’s emergence. He didn’t claim to have “invented” it.

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Re: Vint Cerf, “father of the Internet”, is retiring

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Post by defrost »

Vaslo wrote: post #40
tomhow wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please don’t post snarky or low-substance comments on HN. As another commenter has pointed out, Vint Cerf himself credits Gore as playing a significant role in enabling the Internet’s emergence. He didn’t claim to have “invented” it.

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  Gore's actual words were widely reaffirmed by notable Internet pioneers, such as Vint Cerf and Bob Kahn, who stated, "No one in public life has been more intellectually engaged in helping to create the climate for a thriving Internet than the Vice President."
~ peer linked wikipedia article.

Emphasis on actual words, with an obligatory side dish of context.

Re: Vint Cerf, “father of the Internet”, is retiring

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Post by hyperman1 »

Sesse__ wrote: post #50
aooao wrote: post #27

I wonder if he would have designed TCP/IP differently if he'd had the chance to have a second go of it. Maybe having multiple streams within a single connection, like QUIC does, would have been a better choice. Also being able to demarcate message boundaries within the protocol itself, perhaps, instead of it being a simple byte stream.

I was at a talk where he brought up exactly this (I also once did a talk alongside him, but that's a different story). He said there would be two changes: 1. It would have 128-bit addresses. 2. It would have end-to-end encryption (or was it authentication, I forget). IPv6 was supposed to fix both of these, with IPsec mandatory, but the latter demand sort of faded out into obscurity. We ended up basically solving encr…

Doing this brings you close to OSI, which famously failed by being overcomplicated. The current design was implementable by zillions of cheap humans running cheap hardware.

I always wonder if the internet is thesurvivor of the networking cambrian explosion, with a slight roll of the dice making another candidate the winner.

Re: Vint Cerf, “father of the Internet”, is retiring

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Post by croes »

jibal wrote: post #49
tomhow wrote: post #20

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Thanks! We’ve updated the title.

Eh? Vint is KNOWN AS "the father of the Internet", and that's what TFA's title says. https://web.archive.org/web/20131104212006/http://deafness.a... > He is routinely referred to as "the father of the internet," There is no one else who is referred to that way. If you google "father of the Internet", Vint pops up. https://www.inmesol.com/blog/fathers-internet/ > Vinton Cerf (Connecticut, 1943) Considered to be the fo…

The title of your second link is "The Fathers of the Internet" and Robert Kahn as co-inventor of TCP/IP protocol is also considered a father of the internet.

BTW if I google father of the internet I get Cerf and Kahn or it says "a father"

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