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Re: Show HN: Ant – A JavaScript runtime and ecosystem

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Post by SebastianKra »

armanckeser wrote: post #88
girvo wrote: post #60

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Ant in JS land is already claimed and huge too lol https://ant.design/

Tangent but what a horrible website at least on my android. Starts as light mode, suddenly shows three streched columns, turns to dark mode and the title is hidden behind the header. After years of being around how can they end up with something like this

Whenever I'm bored, I go to the ant-design site to see how long it takes to find the first gross accessibility violation. This time it was the dropdown just above the fold, which wasn't keyboard controllable.

Re: Show HN: Ant – A JavaScript runtime and ecosystem

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Post by progx »

bellowsgulch wrote: post #14

> Something you could distribute without dragging along hundreds of megabytes of V8 or Node. Holy crap, V8 is that big now? Very interested in this for embedding purposes.

https://zoo.js.org/

V8 21M, Score 47285, ES6 98%

Ant 4.3M, >>> Score 69 <<<, ES6 50%

Re: Show HN: Ant – A JavaScript runtime and ecosystem

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Post by yard2010 »

nhinck2 wrote: post #85
theMackabu wrote: post #32

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this was flagging code from all the way back in dec of 2025, back when this project was just some idea and not what it is today. around feb thats when basically deleted the existing codebase and designed a much more reliable system from the ground up. I knew the existing code was basically pure slop, and it was not the biggest issue then, now nothing goes past me unreviewed and untested > To the author: I absolutely…

> now nothing goes past me unreviewed and untested So it's not hand-built?

Honest question - does using claude code and steering it to type the code I want counts as hand-built? Like doing actual PRs, nit picking, basically treating it as a jr/product/typist while I'm the one making ALL the decisions? Reading every line and approving manually if it's a code that I would write?

Re: Show HN: Ant – A JavaScript runtime and ecosystem

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Post by opem »

bblb wrote: post #97
vips7L wrote: post #79

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It’s not hand-built. It’s hand prompted.

Writing code by your own hands is an esoteric hobby. We are past the slop era. This is coding now. If you're 1x, you're not a dev. I would assume by now most of the code published on Github is hand-built with LLM prompts and armies of AI agents.

What is the definition of being an 1x dev?

Re: Show HN: Ant – A JavaScript runtime and ecosystem

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Post by paipa »

tobr wrote: post #46

What is the serif typeface used on the website? It’s been renamed (I assume) to ant_serif and scrubbed of any other identifiers. It’s very pleasant.

It's Bureau Serif from Smuss Type Kiosk: https://typekiosk.smuss.studio/bureau-serif

He forgot to scrub the vendor ID field.

Re: Show HN: Ant – A JavaScript runtime and ecosystem

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Post by incrudible »

scabby wrote: post #94
armanckeser wrote: post #88

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Tangent but what a horrible website at least on my android. Starts as light mode, suddenly shows three streched columns, turns to dark mode and the title is hidden behind the header. After years of being around how can they end up with something like this

Completely broken on iOS as well. Feels like AI slop.

It is funny that people now instinctively think of AI when encountering slop, as if the slop that the AI produces was not deeply informed by the slop it trained on. Plus, the quality bar on the web has always been low, masking the true capability of LLMs.

Re: Show HN: Ant – A JavaScript runtime and ecosystem

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Post by incrudible »

yard2010 wrote: post #124
nhinck2 wrote: post #85

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> now nothing goes past me unreviewed and untested So it's not hand-built?

Honest question - does using claude code and steering it to type the code I want counts as hand-built? Like doing actual PRs, nit picking, basically treating it as a jr/product/typist while I'm the one making ALL the decisions? Reading every line and approving manually if it's a code that I would write?

In the age of LLMs we can assume that any code was generated by an LLM unless noted otherwise, so I think it is fair to not point out the use of LLMs. However, words like hand built should be reserved for the instances where the code was actually written unassisted. Reading all the code means nothing, there is no such thing as code that was written as if you had written it, unless you have written it.

Re: Show HN: Ant – A JavaScript runtime and ecosystem

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Post by sylware »

lelanthran wrote: post #115
rererereferred wrote: post #84

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Seems like so: https://github.com/theMackabu/ant Odd choice for a vibecoded project.

> Odd choice for a vibecoded project. Not really, there's some advantages if the viber is experienced in C. 1. When the LLM needs to figure out what functions exist, it reads only headers, not the actual implementation. IME the agent uses a fraction of tokens compared to vibing out a Java or C# project. 2. There's only a handful of common footguns in C (signed overflow, use-after-free, dereferencing NULL, etc) all of…

Thx for the github.com link, I can have a look at it.
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