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Xbox 360 Sold More Units Than The Nintendo Wii U In November

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Re: Xbox 360 Sold More Units Than The Nintendo Wii U In November

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Please, please let this be a lesson to Microsoft that gamers aren't interested in gimmicks, and that the casuals who do want gimmicks are far more fickle.

The "lesson" is that the WiiU was sold out and on sale for less than two weeks. It's noncomparable data for any conclusion other than "the WiiU found its price point for the consumers who find it interesting."

Re: Xbox 360 Sold More Units Than The Nintendo Wii U In November

#32

Anyone know the accurate count of total units shipped for the 360? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Console_wars#Worldwide_sales_fi... shows PS3 outselling by a hair xbox, but i've seen far more people w/x360 than ps3.

> but i've seen far more people w/x360 than ps3. That would make sense if you live in the U.S. The PS3 is ahead worldwide, but the 360 is winning by a landslide in the U.S.

This isn't actually true. Numbers from around the world are hazy but it looks like the 360 is ahead worldwide by a million or so. The lead will be extended over the holiday with Sony potentially surpassing next year since jan-sep are the months Sony outsells the 360 worldwide.

Re: Xbox 360 Sold More Units Than The Nintendo Wii U In November

#33

Anyone know the accurate count of total units shipped for the 360? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Console_wars#Worldwide_sales_fi... shows PS3 outselling by a hair xbox, but i've seen far more people w/x360 than ps3.

The 360 has sold way better in the US, while the PS3 has sold better in Europe and Japan. Their individual advantages and weaknesses evens out pretty much. Overall, the trend seems to be that the European market is becoming as important as the US market, while Japan is increasingly insignificant (every new generation sells less in Japan)

Re: Xbox 360 Sold More Units Than The Nintendo Wii U In November

#34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm referring to the Wii motion control and the Wii U GamePad. Traditional gamers don't find those appealing, yet it seems to be where Nintendo has focused a significant portion of their development and marketing attention.

Just curious, why wouldn't traditional gamers like the game pad? I can understand the disdain for motion controls, but personally I quite like the idea of the game pad.

It's somewhat awkward/clumsy and makes controlling standard games more difficult. Sure, in "Super Swipe Dart Throwing!" you'll have better control because of the touch screen, but no one would ever choose it over a PS3/360 controller for something like Call of Duty.

Re: Xbox 360 Sold More Units Than The Nintendo Wii U In November

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Not sure how that makes much of a difference, other than the fact that they still chose to purchase a 360 over the PS3 or Wii U after such a hardware failure.

It does make a difference, since the person is already locked-in by owning games for the 360.

Playing devils advocate they are locked-in to a 7+ year old platform. A fact I've heard being lamented a lot lately.

I would imagine there would be a lot of gamers that like the idea of newer tech / concepts and would get the Wii U.

That said, the Wii U controls are just... odd.

Re: Xbox 360 Sold More Units Than The Nintendo Wii U In November

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm referring to the Wii motion control and the Wii U GamePad. Traditional gamers don't find those appealing, yet it seems to be where Nintendo has focused a significant portion of their development and marketing attention.

"Traditional gamers" are an increasingly small market when compared to "casual gamers", though.

The categories themselves are pretty polarizing. I consider myself "casual" when it comes to the time investment and active engagement required for MMOs and certain big budget titles, but "traditional" to "hardcore" when it comes to the indie games I buy off Steam.

Re: Xbox 360 Sold More Units Than The Nintendo Wii U In November

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1.26 million Xbox 360s vs. 425,000 Wii U. Seems to me the Wii wouldn't have caught up even if they'd had more time and more inventory.

Since it is an improper comparison, what do you base your hypothesis on exactly?

It may have only been on shelves for 12 days, but people were free to preorder it all month, so you can't just divide the total sales by 12 and apply that to the other 18 days.

Also, a lot of people probably bought it for resale since it's the holiday season and the first new console in 6 years. Prices on Ebay are barely above retail though, so demand doesn't actually seem to be outpacing supply by very much.

Re: Xbox 360 Sold More Units Than The Nintendo Wii U In November

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Considering the Wii U was on sale for 12 days in November, and the 360 was on sale for the whole month, this isn't as bad as it sounds. And as the article mentions, it's been in and out of stock in many locations (though certainly not to the degree the first Wii was).

Exactly and if you factor that into the figures then you see it did better.

Let us not forget that bundle deals with lots of games there mates have will be a weighted factor for 360 sales for many, especialy given the Wii is new. Also I suspect that many Wii U sales were to owners who already own a Wii.

I think the only fair comparision in sales will be in the new year, once the dust has setteled and a truer sales picture can be obtained.

Re: Xbox 360 Sold More Units Than The Nintendo Wii U In November

#39

Please, please let this be a lesson to Microsoft that gamers aren't interested in gimmicks, and that the casuals who do want gimmicks are far more fickle.

That's right, REAL gamers only want ascii characters and play games that have development trees that stretch 10-30 years back!

Oh wait, you meant something else, didn't you?

Get off my lawn, kid!

(I own a Wii and a bunch of games for it, it's much nicer to play with the family, although Dwarf Fortress with my son sometimes happens.)

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