My main concern is the deceit, "[s]topping for mechanical issues". Nah bruh
Waymo reports teen riders for bad behavior and delivers them to the police
31–36 of 36 posts
Re: Waymo reports teen riders for bad behavior and delivers them to the police
#32I'm 99% sure that a human made these decisions after viewing the cameras in the vehicle, not that the Waymo vehicle itself decided to contact the police and park in a parking lot with these kids. This honestly seems pretty ideal. In a dangerous situation, the only risk is property damage - there's no driver to threaten!
> This honestly seems pretty ideal. I disagree. A decent response would have been for the car to simply refuse to continue the ride rather than kidnapping the ne'er-do-wells. That Waymo did this means that the hesitations I had about using the service are amplified by a few orders of magnitude. I'm not willing to risk someone at Waymo (or, worse, a machine at Waymo) making the wrong call and kidnapping me by mistake.
> A decent response would have been for the car to simply refuse to continue the ride rather than kidnapping the ne'er-do-wells.
It seems that's what exactly what they did? Except also called the police which seems the responsible thing to do when dropping drunk kids off somewhere
Re: Waymo reports teen riders for bad behavior and delivers them to the police
#33AI is just a tool. The real responsibility belongs to the developers, companies, and users who decide how it's built and used—not the AI itself. Anyway, that's insane. But if they were trying to damage the car, I can understand why Waymo reported them to the police.
Re: Waymo reports teen riders for bad behavior and delivers them to the police
#34I'm 99% sure that a human made these decisions after viewing the cameras in the vehicle, not that the Waymo vehicle itself decided to contact the police and park in a parking lot with these kids. This honestly seems pretty ideal. In a dangerous situation, the only risk is property damage - there's no driver to threaten!
[deleted]
Re: Waymo reports teen riders for bad behavior and delivers them to the police
#35Earlier quoted context omitted.
I personally think that frontier LLMs are already at the point where I trust them to be a better judge of human behavior than humans overall.
Absolutely. But they still hallucinate, I wouldn't want them to take action themselves, just flag things for human review.
Even in that context, to just be constantly flagging human actions, can be argued as reflective of a dystopian future. Always being monitored, and every viewable action recorded, categorized, and flagged.
Re: Waymo reports teen riders for bad behavior and delivers them to the police
#36https://archive.ph/yUFqG The car sent the San Mateo PD a report that the riders had toy projectile emitters (aka "guns," I suppose) they were using to shoot pellets at passers-by. It pulled into a parking lot until cops arrived. It doesn't report if it locked the riders in. I was just thinking I want to try at least one joyride but no, now I'm not even interested in giving them those $20.
Even if there was a way to remotely engage child lock, the front doors are still always unlocked from the inside.
The newer vehicles with the suicide doors don't have an emergency exit lever that I could find.