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How to hide from killer drones

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Re: How to hide from killer drones

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Post by atoav »

ukd1 wrote: post #27
orthoxerox wrote: post #22

Dazzle camouflage doesn't work on killer drones. Even civilian LLMs recognize that the object on the photograph is a military truck, except they can't explain why it's been painted to resemble a zebra. Most dedicated machine vision models easily lock in on a boxy shape moving along a road. If anything, the stripes make the trucks easier to see. The real answer to killer drones is a CIWS that can cover 2pi steradians…

This. See https://9mothers.com

Until drones deploy counter-blinkenlights. As someone who has built a realtime people tracker art installation in a disco: Stroboscopes are highly effective at confusing these models.

Re: How to hide from killer drones

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orthoxerox wrote: post #22

Dazzle camouflage doesn't work on killer drones. Even civilian LLMs recognize that the object on the photograph is a military truck, except they can't explain why it's been painted to resemble a zebra. Most dedicated machine vision models easily lock in on a boxy shape moving along a road. If anything, the stripes make the trucks easier to see. The real answer to killer drones is a CIWS that can cover 2pi steradians…

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Re: How to hide from killer drones

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Post by 1over137 »

orthoxerox wrote: post #22

Dazzle camouflage doesn't work on killer drones. Even civilian LLMs recognize that the object on the photograph is a military truck, except they can't explain why it's been painted to resemble a zebra. Most dedicated machine vision models easily lock in on a boxy shape moving along a road. If anything, the stripes make the trucks easier to see. The real answer to killer drones is a CIWS that can cover 2pi steradians…

CIWS?

Re: How to hide from killer drones

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Post by vanviegen »

MengerSponge wrote: post #30
yogthos wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The difference is that a neural network you can fit on a drone is going to be a lot less capable than an LLM you can run on a desktop.

Doesn't a fiber tether give its drone desktop-class computing?

Fiber tethered drones don't need to be AI controlled.

Re: How to hide from killer drones

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Post by joezydeco »

stefan_ wrote: post #26
joezydeco wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The evidence seems to be coming out to support the latter. https://arstechnica.com/ai/2026/06/ukraines-one-time-test-us... https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cdjp0n7rn41o

Yes, media see a snapdragon running a YOLO and go off writing "AI apocalypse autonomous killer drones" articles. See it for yourselves: https://x.com/RALee85/status/2071537561059692956 Some object detection and (human triggered) terminal guidance. It's essentially there to solve latency and control issues for a fixed wing platform with a spotty data link.

If it works, who cares how it's made?

Re: How to hide from killer drones

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Post by corky_buchek »

echelon wrote: post #25
tcp_handshaker wrote: post #16

Slaughterbots: https://youtu.be/O-2tpwW0kmU

Prescient. This film predated the Ukraine war, and it felt like fiction six years ago. This is absolutely coming. The government is concerned about who might print a 3D gun, but this is the real danger.

The Ukraine war started in 2014.

Re: How to hide from killer drones

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Post by lelandfe »

A tip from a 2024 Google paper[0]:

> It's important to note that the risk of misuse is significantly lower for individuals who have never had typical speech patterns

How to Hide from Killer Drones:

It's important to note that that the risk of being riddled with drone bullets is significantly lower for individuals who have never had human physical characteristics.

[0] https://research.google/blog/restoring-speaker-voices-with-z...

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